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  1. The Vertical forums are meant to provide for open discussion and dialogue. However, recently certain individuals' posts have sunk to all-time lows. This includes the impersonation of other individuals and fraud. In one case an individual went so far as to post a fake job listing for a company, and impersonate the individual that works at this company. This is libellous and will not be tolerated. We continue to investigate these posts. The individual(s) WILL BE identified and their names and contact details provided to company lawyers for further action. The Vertical Forums used to
    17 points
  2. I see you are not willing to put your name on here the way you are talking about us old guys and Delta helicopters.... I wonder if this is why you have a screen name like yours. Check with lots of us old guys that got endorsements from Delta, I got a medium endorsement and lots of us got a start in this industry because of Delta.....did some of them work on the ground for a few years..... yes they did.... but they got flying which this thread is about. I went back to Delta 2 yrs ago again after 20 years because I know that Delta can afford to fix anything that may go wrong with an ai
    13 points
  3. Wow, a lot of pissed off people here!... Yes the industry is in the toilet. Not sure how a jr pilot would get going now let alone get through client hour requirements. But someone will have to figure out something. I guess left seat mentoring would be possible in a medium or bigger but will be a lot harder to do in a light aircraft. After 20 years I can say I still love flying! I was well informed of what I was getting into before I started and can thank RDM for that. I'm not saying its all peachy but some of those buckets and outhouses have been in some pretty cool places and I've gotte
    12 points
  4. It’s simple - bills. We’re trapped. imagine if you will, making an $80,000 salary. This is hypothetical mind you. People will argue that it’s too high or too low but here’s the point: could you start over? Not me. I have a mortgage, kids and tons of other things that rely on this wage. Sure you could say that I could cut back and start over. Have a drive down to the grocery store and see if you could cut back. The long and the short of it is that we ruined this industry just as surly as operators did. I know a pair of operators in Fort Mac that started just fine. Treated th
    12 points
  5. Tough to run a business when you don't have the access to and endless supply of disposable desperate Foriegn labour. I personally say good riddance.
    12 points
  6. Bell Medium pilots are taken care of then.
    11 points
  7. Out of curiosity, from all the comments in this thread about how awful the industry is and how anything other than helicopters would be a better career choice, what are you guys doing hanging around a helicopter forum?? Why don't you take your own advice and put this career behind you and never think of it again??
    11 points
  8. After many months of avoiding this forum I finally had a few beer and decided to take a peek mainly out of pure boredom. I sit here sipping away trying to put into words my feelings towards my career in this industry. I honestly would have a hard time telling a young keen individual to actually pursue a career in helicopters at this current time...and even worse this terrible state of the industry. For one its a young persons game if you are going to get in.... do it as soon as you can, because as most people have already said you're going to have to put in time and years to get to a place t
    10 points
  9. The fact of the matter is that the thought process isn’t Old School, it is just the way life is. Most of us researched the industry and accepted the fact we may have to be ground crew first and then hopefully our work ethic would eventually get us that coveted seat. I know it is taught in school Now days that you are entitled to 6 figures and a CEO position right away but the reality Is that teachers have a very distorted view on how the world works (They are big believers in socialism,right up until bargaining time) My suggestion is do your research first before getting into any career. This
    9 points
  10. Hi everyone As everyone all ready has heard we lost a great guy. Heath was truly a HELICOPTER PILOT... I wanna ask everyone to take a minute of silence this Sunday before you start you next mission or night maintenance. Let HEATER have one more go.... please pass onto as many people as you can Jason Rand
    8 points
  11. I disagree that the forum should be taken down. I think that the members must use their real names forbthe profile as I believe that will stop the abuse we have seen here in the past. Dan Stewart
    8 points
  12. 90% of the pilots I respect as professionals and can only wish to be equal too, don’t take part in these forums anymore. Just the bitter people that are pissed off with the industry. I come on once a month to see what’s new, and it’s the same group of people complaining about everything, arguing and insulting each other.
    8 points
  13. One of best pieces of advice I was given 30 years ago when I first broke into the industry was. NEVER move anywhere in this industry for a job, EVER. That advice has proved invaluable over the years. Contracts come and go, talk is cheap and there are plenty of hollow promises out there. I've personally been asked to move 5 times. In each of those instances. The work ended within months of being asked to move. My response these days is "If I wanted to live there, I would already be doing so". Bottom line IMO: this industry is far too volatile to move anywhere for a job.
    8 points
  14. I thought you said cheap? That’s about $1000 in lumber alone.
    7 points
  15. Personally, I may be a loser, but I check in about 2-3 times a day on this forum, mainly because that's how often I run through my online media and investment sites. I like this forum, mainly because as a retired pilot I have very little contact with others from the industry, and I miss the contact. Articles like Bladestrike's ferry trip make up for all the nasty, stupid, and outrageous posts the idiots make on here, and I for one would not like to miss another quality piece like that. Lastly, as I get on in years, as sad as it is, I do appreciate hearing about fellow aviator
    7 points
  16. I have been away for a while as well. I got tired of reading stupid things that cowards would say as they hide in anonymity. I say keep the forums but as Dan said, you post, you post under your real name. This can be a useful and informative place as well as a good place to keep in touch with friends. 412driver aka Rob Dyck
    7 points
  17. Maybe just not stupid enough. Just because you don't agree calling out some bad operators doesn't mean they shouldn't be called out. These same companies have no problem throwing a guy under the bus when they quit or call them out. Had one friend quit to go fly closer to home and the managers called the new company and the new company changed their minds. If your ok with that Normy then your a special kind for sure.
    7 points
  18. For those of you flying today in Alberta or with access to Alberta Forestry radio. At approximately 1530 for the afternoon weather briefing a moment of silence will be observed for Heath. Andrew
    6 points
  19. Very sad news morning for the Helicopter world. Richard Alzetta passed away this morning at Foothills hospital in Calgary. Next to his family, Richard’s passion in life was flying in the mountains and passing his knowledge off to aspiring helicopter pilots. Anyone who flew with knows how much he loved to fly. He was an integral part of the success of Mountain View Helicopters and a mentor to many. He will be missed immensely. RIP my friend.
    6 points
  20. Remember that if you ever have one of "them" drag your gluteous maximus out of what's left of your "office"!! Just sayin'...
    6 points
  21. With the Astra Zeneca controversy going on I just read that our fearless Idiot in charge says we should just take it and be happy. Well let's start with Ontario and Quebec first. They trusted him on a self balancing budget, so what could possibly go wrong with actual science?
    6 points
  22. TC medicine making an official ruling in reasonable time on anything would be a huge accomplishment. By the time they make up their minds Covid will be talked about like polio.
    6 points
  23. this kit has the option tailboom folding hardware as well.
    6 points
  24. Low pay, bad schedule, sociopathic owners reminding you of their stack of resumes. So no real change at all.
    6 points
  25. How will pilots manage to navigate through the mountains this winter without someone in a ski suit beside them telling them what to do? 💩
    6 points
  26. Jeez shakey for someone who hates foreign workers you're pretty keen to steal a local's job in Africa.
    6 points
  27. RIP to one of the pillars of rotary wing aviation in western Canada. He was admirable in skill, kindness, and personality. What awful news. Condolences to both his immediate family and his Yellowhead family. Baker
    5 points
  28. positive re-enforcement works like a charm. and you should be thankful, sometimes those knots are complicated for a driver. a beer is a cheap reward I'd do it for a Lucky.
    5 points
  29. They think that you owe them beer if they help untie your machine. They don’t need encouragement.
    5 points
  30. Very sad news. A real mentor for so many of us, global experience with countless hours and an amazing, genuine passion for helicopters . A person whom I hold the highest respect for, wish I could have thanked you one more time. You will be missed Richard, and thank you for the influence you had on all of us.
    5 points
  31. 5 points
  32. We all do, but that right there is what operators have always preyed on.
    5 points
  33. Yeah you’re right. Bad burrito the industry is great, good tours, over the top pay, tons of opportunities for new pilots. Pm Vortex he probably has that left seat position ready for you. No cleaning hangars for you, you should have all your hours in the first six months For all the clients demands. No sacrifice and home every night. Is that better bud?
    5 points
  34. I have been in the industry for close to 20 years and I still enjoy it.... most of the time. But it is near impossible to get a start today as a low time guy due to client requirements and the ease of just hiring an experienced guy.
    5 points
  35. It’s not economically viable to do business in Canada for the last 4.5 years. Don’t know why that is? I think it’s in the water out East.
    5 points
  36. Or maybe your Mom told you that you are the greatest only for you to find out that you're not. If the instructor was grabbing the controls it's probably cause he or she didn't want to be a statistic. Don't forget you could request a different instructor as you are the customer. Maybe it's time to grow up a bit.
    5 points
  37. “I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.” ― Mark Twain
    5 points
  38. Worked there for 3 months one winter. Didn't fly a single hour but had to help the Ahole move house smh..
    5 points
  39. I dont want to use my real name! Then everyone will know I’m not as good as I tell everyone !!
    4 points
  40. The Vertical forums are meant to provide for open discussion and dialogue. However, recently certain individuals' posts have sunk to all-time lows. This includes the impersonation of other individuals and fraud. In one case an individual went so far as to post a fake job listing for a company, and impersonate the individual that works at this company. This is libelous and will not be tolerated. We continue to investigate these posts. The individual(s) WILL BE identified and their names and contact details provided to company lawyers for further action. Vertical originated from Ca
    4 points
  41. I think that was covered in the 70's and up...I know a few who are in their late 70's.
    4 points
  42. Stupid, well maybe you call it that, I call it willing to stand behind what I post without anonymity. Toughtimes not only called out a company but anyone that has or does work there, that includes a lot of pilots. Maybe you think that is fine, my guess is he probably doesn't anymore either as he hasn't put his real name behind it or even responded to Dan. As far as your friend is concerned, I don't now who he is, who you are or even no if the story is even true. For all I know you aren't even a pilot or AME, since you refuse to stand behind your comments. But hey, you got quite a bi
    4 points
  43. Why don't you and Hybrid start the exposing yourselves first? Let me guess. Crickets?!?
    4 points
  44. Ok, first off, I am a Pilot, so anything I write here is second hand, but if you want nasty engineering stories, after a lot of internal debate, I believe this site can handle this storey. Way back, when Associated was taken over by Okanagan, we had a contract with the U.S. Navy, to supply a IFR equipped 212, to the Eastern Artic, for 2-3 months in the depths of winter. Being a newly minted 212 pilot at the time, I thought, Oh Wow, what an adventure, 212, Eastern Artic, Hush Hush operations out on the ice in mid winter. So, I'm describing my enthusiasm about this contract to an eng
    4 points
  45. If I’m 1 day over 60 doing this because I need the money, please shoot me in the head!
    4 points
  46. I thought the industry norm was just to snag everything 10min before getting on the crew change plane. What's this maintenance you speak of?
    4 points
  47. I make the parallel to being in a abusive relationship, it sounds easy to leave but in reality its not that easy. I actually enjoy my career but I couldn't imagine starting over with the way the industry is now. Client requirements have become insane, 2000hr minimum is common place now. I've even seen a job that required dual crew and both needed 4000+ to move a drill in an astar. Most (not all) operators will chew you up and spit you out, pull a resume off the mountain and keep on keeping on... At the pace Mountain View, Chinook etc.. mint new CPL's there are far more mouths to feed tha
    4 points
  48. Enough shite displayed... topic is closed..
    4 points
  49. Good thing only pilots over 60 have anything to worry about if they catch the virus. Oh shoot... that’s 95% of the industry...
    4 points
  50. We can make an exception in this case.
    4 points
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