Thanks for the serious suggestions. I am going to try the RAM single suction cup, also a claw as that might work better. It's been a while, but I am sure I used a company single suction cup and it worked fine for an iPad mini. I figure if the single suction doesn't work I can just get the double suction as an add on. The MGF seem very expensive and doesn't seem to allow modifications very easily. I could also use the RAM for a GoPro, iPhone and iPad on my motorbike with accessories that are easy to order. Thanks again.