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coastlogr

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  1. Logging time from engine start to shutdown is not correct. It should be from when the AC first moves under it's own power(skids up) to when it lands for the purpose of shutting down(skids down) Idle time at the beginning of the fight or the end of the the flight does not count as Flt time.

    Also I have had the COM thing thrown at me in the past. Remember who's responsibility it is to remain legal flight and duty time. Here's a hint,it's not the company!

    For those of you who think logging air time for flight and duty time,remember. Ignorance of the law is a poor defence.

     

    Never cut yourself short on safety.

    Use the rules to protect yourself and your integrity.

    YOU are the pilot in COMMAND!

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  2. I'm curious how many of you work for companies that have the statement in their COM (under technical Records section in Chapter 4) that states "Flight Time and Air Time are the same for skid equipped helicopter, accordingly the recorded times shall be the same". In our COM it's in Section 4.18. I suspect most COM's have this statement or something similar since most COM's originate from the Template TC used to issue to all operators. We are aware of several operators who have had manuals approved with policies that differ from this, however we have not been able to amend ours.

    We have been discussing this with TC for several years in an effort to remove this statement and useed GAPL 2005-02 as supporting documentation to put pressure on TC to remove the statement. It took quite some time to receive a response, but we were advised on August 16th of the following:

    Errors in processing occurred when GAPL 2005-2 was cancelled in 2009. The document was not properly removed from the web and not included in the cancelled GAPL list. These errors lead to the circulation of erroneous information about the Policy Letter validity. The links below illustrate the corrections.

     

    GAPL 2005-2 is no longer valid, our apologies for the confusion

     

    I also wonder how this effects how pilots should log their Flight Times as it pertains to Flght/Duty Time limits. At our company pilots have always logged start to shut down on their flight duty time records; however we are considering advising pilots that Air Time should be used.

    So I ask this: Are most pilots in the industry using "Air Time" in their "Flight Duty Time records"?

     

    Logging time from engine start to shutdown is not correct. It should be from when the AC first moves under it's own power(skids up) to when it lands for the purpose of shutting down(skids down) Idle time at the beginning of the fight or the end of the the flight does not count as Flt time.

    Also I have had the COM thing thrown at me in the past. Remember who's responsibility it is to remain legal flight and duty time. Here's a hint,it's not the company!

    For those of you who think logging air time for flight and duty time,remember. Ignorance of the law is a poor defence.

     

    Never cut yourself short on safety.

    Use the rules to protect yourself and your integrity.

    YOU are the pilot in COMMAND!

    Remember, the only time this will be a significant issue is after an accident. As someone stated earlier, your insurance company and lawyers will decide what's right when deciding whether they should cover the cost of the accident.

    On one hand if a pilot uses air time in his Flight Duty times he could be accused of hedging his hours and/or his fatigue could come into question; on the other if he pilot uses his time behind controls with engines running as flight time in his personal log he could be accused of "padding" or misrepresenting his hours of experience.

    We have submitted a request through the Civil Aviation Incident Report System for clarification to this issue and are awaiting a response. None of the inspectors or supervisors we have questioned with regards want to comment "on the record".


  3. If you start up and run at 100%,flight time does not start until the A/C moves under its own power. If you fly around and land three times,for 6 minutes on the ground each time,this is subtracted from your flight time. The flight time ends when you land to shut down at the end of the flight.

    So if the total time between takeoff and landing to shutdown is 1 hour,that is your flight time. That is what you Charge the customer,that is what you should get paid to fly.

     

    Three landing on the ground for a total of 18 minutes(.3) would = .7 air time,that is what the aircrafts maint. is based on.

     

    You cannot use air time for your flight and duty time,or it would be called "air and duty time"

     

    Also,in Canada,you require 100 hrs flt time to get your lic. not air time.

     

    I hope this clarifies this age old discussion.

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  4. Ya,I can say the guy probably has what it takes,He is a lot like you you were at one time Zaz,hard working,do whatever it takes kinda guy.

    Work like a dog all day,and put in lots of extra time making sure his equipment (and usually everyone else's)was ready for the am.

    I can't imagine how hard it is to break into those first few hundred golden hours these days,and if this guy gets passed up,it will be the industries loss.

     

    We could sure use a few less whiners around right about now.

     

    Good luck R,this dogs pulling for ya! :D


  5. Any helicopter can do that,just install a retard with good hands and bad judgement.

     

    Anyone who has ever flown a S58T,and knows what it's doing to the mast would never get in it after that display.

     

    Cant help but notice,it's no where near North America,where we value our lives and aircraft!

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