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  1. Good on ya Patrick for setting the example for other young people in your community. In today's world of meth, spoiled teens and otherwise lazy kids its nice to see positive productive community based reporting. Again well done, fly safe !! P5
  2. Words cannot describe the feelings of both anger and sadness at this time with news of yet another fallen friend. The pilot in question was only in his 30's with a new born child at home, sure he would have been a great dad ,a tragic loss. My heartfelt condolences to his family in this great time of loss. Gods speed friend. Please everyone, be careful out there, as rewarding as a career can be ,this helicopter flying thing is potentially dangerous. Be on your guard all the time and take extra care all the time. Take extra time with daily inspections, checking weather, slow down and take inventory of all the potential risks before strapping in and going. Take nothing for granted. I sincerely hope that everyone stays safe this summer please. P5
  3. HAC- Owners club! I would have written something to this effect.. Dear Mr. Kenny Industry stake holders have been burdened by a serious shortage of experience well trained Canadian helicopter pilots . This is due to the present day client and insurance requirements and ever decreasing margins and lack of foresight by senior managers of some stakeholders in past decades. Unfortunately instead of being able to hire inexperienced Canadians and train them on the job, industry takes the economical path to outsource in foreign juristctions and by doing so for the last decade has created an increasing dependency and subsequent shortage of Canadian experience commercial helicopter pilots. Today there exists an enormous gap between what is required and what is available from the current Canadian Labour force. Unfortunately this problem is in part due to substandard training requirements and criteria demanded by TC Canada in terms of management training to assist those with decision making authority acting on behalf of operators and stake holders to assure full compliance with both federal and provincial laws. All to often it is far less expensive to hire a foreign pilot and subvert the rules than to hire and train a young Canadian . It would be in the interests of all Canadians and to the benefit of Canadian workers and families to end this dependence on foreign workers in this very small skilled profession by visiting the existing Canadian Action plan and job training incentives to assist operators to hire and train young Canadians. and once and for all put the jobs back into the hands of Canadians. I look forward to working with you and your colleagues to find a solution to put an end to an over dependence on foreign workers. Or something like that........ Jones is an air head! Playing it up for the owners club and not representing the Canadian crews or the best interest of all industry stake holders and demonstrate some foresight and find a long term solution ..."LONG TERM" Total Lack of leadership...but then agin for the most part he is put in place as a puppet of the owners club so I really don't expect anything more... Same old same old....!. Blaaaaaa Several valid points in all previous posts. All point to the same systemic problem... IMHO P5
  4. CBC news is reporting fire OC in foothills close to Nordeg Alberta. Fire bans in effect for most of Alberta. Won't be out on fires this year due to seafaring adventures ,but want to wish everyone a safe, prudent and satisfying 2013 fire season.... It could be another 2006 dooozy... P5
  5. Sorry for the SP error- just trying to say like it is without any fluff! Am I sorry, sometimes- but Im not going to throw my self out the window and roll in dog shiit! Do I regret getting into the industry - NO- because without the experience I wouldn't know how to detect the warning signs of the type of person or manager that I would never work for no matter how desperate or poor I was. Like anything else the industry is changing and the most of the old crusty arsholes that hold or held positions of power are slowly fading into retirement- No names. My only hope is that they are not replaced by more of the same...and that the industry develops more along the lines of professional behaviour, and with a little more integrity- sure it will never be perfect but one can only hope... P5
  6. Line worker wrote: "Just work hard, water off a duck's back and all that. IF you get screwed somehow, as Whitestone and his alternate profiles believe you will, (sorry, couldn't help it), just move on, always forwards and keep working hard." So just a little confused here? Are you suggesting that Whitestone has many profiles thereby limiting the amount of "complainers" or those that have been "screwed" and all complaints are only comming from one contributer vs many? If so, well there is a serious issue of willfull blindness blindness here on your part and disengenious thinking?? Maybe it's just a wording issue?? Then again we tend to percieve things based on what we "want" to believe vs the often unpleasent truth and fact.This inhibits change and improvement. The rest of the post does have some merit on the positive side cotton candy, lollypops and all....Yes work hard!! Blinders back on! P5
  7. Well Med Man, I can't say that I can agree with the complete synopsis contained in the above quote. Although not a dinasaur of this industry yet.( extinct) i can sympathize with many of your comments. It's really quite hard to generalize or at least make general statements about the Canadian Industry, with the exeption of the observations as they pertain to ones personal experience over the years. For me its been a rather disapointing experience in Canada, not from the perspective of operational professionlism, training, day to day specific stuff as it pertains to the job we do.. for the most part my impressions have been positive. When I have found deficiencies or gaps, is with the way people treat other people from the " professional conduct perspective" outside when the rotors have stopped turning...It's rather deplorable, even cut throat for the most part. How you ask can I make a comparison?? Or have something to measure my experience against... Easy, go work with the Brits, Indians, Scotts, Irish, Africans.....( outside Canada)..There is a marked difference in these working environments where the professionalism and conduct extends inside and outside the work place... Gentlemen for the most part. Sure there is some banjoing and underhanded activity but no where close to the underhanded slick cut throat crap that goes on in Canada.. I can remember working for one UK outfit in Africa and the Chief pilot asked me point blank... Is it really that cut throat in Canada? My response was yes! It is! I felt embarrassed to be Canadian! Is it going to change? I hope so, and maybe with the new generation there is hope for a kinder and more gentle approach to how we respect and treat those within our profession and we start behaving like professionals and quit with the underhanded low standard behaviour that is typical of the undercurrent that exists today, as it pertains to compliance and spirit of the Canadian labour laws. Absolutely deplorable. My hope is that change will come... how and when remains a valid concern. Quite frankly I surpised no one has gone postal! IMHO P5
  8. Although an old issue I have a feeling its not going to go away. I tend to think another mechanism association- union whatevere you want to call is a little like automation... a little is good, too much is not- non is bad( like now). much like that robot vaccume I though would be a good idea( takes care of it) until the rotty took a dump in the kids room and mr. robovac got hold of it and spread it around the house... Nuf said!! Little good, too much bad. P5
  9. Canada is a land of immigrants. That being said come on in and immigrate pay crazy taxes find a Canadian girl and yur all good. Do not come work the season go home and do it again the following year in and out . This takes scarce seasonal opportunities from Canadians that are here year round with families to support. For the most part where the problem lies is with operators who bend the rules and know full well what tjey ate doing. In addition what's with the under 31 rule? What if yur 40 or 50. Seems unfair to those who got a late start. The system is not perfect but in the last few years imporovrmrnt has been made to protect Canadian jobs. As the years pass the demand will only increase for skilled pilots and the industry must start brining the low time guys. I can only see the gap widening as the older generation continues out to pasture in greater numbers. So come immigrate to Canada and enjoy our wondfull taxes and balmy winters. P5
  10. Definately not. I work internationally and there are several companies that won't look at you with a US ATP lucky I have both. There is a compounded additional problem to getting a Canadian ATPLH if you dont have one and the only way is to work for a company where you can get one ( HeliJet- Orange- doubt Stars still hires commerical IFR but may) Paying for it is not possible either for 2 reasons 1. it requires a multi engine 2 crew type rated helicopter 212,222,or 76. 2. The you have to get an operator to do it and as most are busy so its slim chances not to mention extremely expensive. As far as doing a check out at Flight Safety or CAA for the initial PPC forget that too as most companies that have the approved TC ACP's ( that work at flight safety) wont lend them out if you are an independent. In other words the Canadian ATPL helicopter license is not impossible to get but next to it ,if not employed by a Canadian operator. One company I know in quebec started doing checks on the A109 the TC stepped on it although it was fully duel pilot equiped, it qualified as a single IFR on the type cert so no go. I have a feeing that the accessibility of an independent ( who doesn't work for a company) to get the Canadian ATPL is out of reach The US ATP is however accessible and the check ride can be done on a single. However less accepted..One company I applies to with both Canadian and US just scoffed at the US ATP... P5
  11. A good question but not as simple as one would think. You can convert any ICAO license, some countries require a Airlaw exam some require that you write the entire CPL exam. The more difficult issue is what the company will accept and this more often than not for the higher paying jobs is an ATPL. More and More the ATPL is becoming the entrance level for those sought after International jobs... The Airlaw exam in this case is the only requirement to convert. By far the hardest license I have ever converted is to the Kenyan License... The exam is based on the entire JAA question bank..( crushed into 100 random questions). So brush up on your knowledge of inertial navigation systems failures and calculating and navigating using meridians. Even seasoned ATP's have difficulty in this case. So the best thing to have for converting is the ATPL. If you do not have a Canadian one go get a US ATP, which is accepted by fewer companies for the most part... Then as was mentioned there is the work permit issue... in most cases you will be offered a temporary work permit sponsored by the company at the begining, as those annual ones for expats are limited in numbers and the company will want to feel you out before giving out the coveted longer term permits.... Hope this is helpful.
  12. Here Here! Whitestone elequently spoken. The sad reality is that the 1967 mentality prevails. The industry is slow to change, in Canada at least. Same cannot be said for the Brits, and even Africa that is in most cases back in the technological stone age but as far as governance is concerned they follow the ICAO recs for the most part. So why is Canada so behind the times when we look at FDT and regulatory changes for the rotary end... ??? Cant say for sure, but its must have something to do with the complete lack of representation of the folks atthe grass roots level. HAC has determined that this forum itself is threat and has partnered with the Verticalmag... seems nefarious or perhaps its because they realized that in an open forum like this one and the lack of control that has arisen with the FDT issue alone and TC agreeing that HAC does not represent the pilots and crew. Measures must be taken to make affiliation or future loss of control could occur... Just speculation of course but desperate times calll for desperate measures.... Who knows but one thing I do know... There will never be a President of HAC put in place who stands up for the pilots and engineers.. of this you can be certain... because it contravenes the 1967 sweatshop mentality, toe the line and give meaningless lip service. Completely disengenious!!! $$$= Membership and a say in whats approved and what is not... Thats the world we live in!!! Booya!!
  13. HV wrote: "I agree completely that not all pilots are alike, but pilots also need to select duties for which they're suited and also need to express themselves properly (which includes respectfully) when something is unsafe or they are becoming fatigued, etc. I don't see how we can get away from prescription (a stated goal (in writing!) of the working group) yet then say we need to write the regulations for the lowest common denominator. These are diametrically opposed goals... One cannot serve God and Mammon..." Please see this demo notice submitted to the provincial duty officer. Dear Mr. Duty Officer As you are aware for the last 12 days we have been very busy with fire 141. This letter is to provide you notice that I am becoming fatiged,and respectfully request that I only remain on duty for 12 hours of the day less 1 hour for morning inspection and 1 hour to complete my daily flight report and paperwork. I am certain that my operations manager will agree with this decision. Please assure that the helicopter remains on the fire and with these extra 2 hours of rest I should be able to continue to conduct my duties without further fatigue. As all pilots are different and some are more easily prone to fatigue especially after 6 hours of bucketing per day. I look forward continuing on with ASRD and trust that this notice and request doesn't negatively effect my employment with ABC helicopters and that any questions concerning this matter are directed to me and or my Ops manager without delay. Respectfully yours Fatigued pilot. ?? Anybody want to suggest the both short term and long term effect of such a letter??? Helicopter and Pilot gone from fire!!!!???? But hold on the letter is respectful!!! Response from operator or at least the ones I know- Not asked back!! Although I agree with some Mr. Vibes comments concerning fatigue, without a regulatory or stated rules that would reduce hours worked, it would make for a very short-lived career pursuant to the aformentioned demo notice letter. The goal of the pilot is to conduct his duties safely! Unfortunately, Provincial authorities will hold to the stated rules... The causal hire contract leaves no room for flexibility for fatigue or any form of procedure for governance to modify or adjust duty times as a result of fatigue while respecting the professional integrity of the pilot. I agree with Fred! Something needs to be done. This LA LA land belief that Ops managers will not put the corporate interests first and satisfy the customers needs is just simply unrealistic. The pilot will be released and replaced with another pilot/ helicopter who will conform, who doesn't complian about fatigue... So the lowest common denominator is by definition then " a pilot or person whh is more succeptable to fatigue" ??? Yes one size doesn't not fit all and I support that our type of operations "cause more fatigue". P5
  14. Did I say That? It's clear that all provincial prisons need Secondary Radar Surveillance! What is the World comming to?
  15. Ok! So what! Some guys decided to break out and use choppers! ???????? Criminals? Well, you have to prove that???????????? Seems Nefarious!?????????????? Nobdody has money for this???-Bullshit????? P007
  16. Yes there is a fine line on what is acceptable and what is not.. What is the "Truth" or "Factual" for one person may be the complete opposite and bear no qualifying " Truth" to another... ( I guess freedom of expression and belief has its inadequacies) Which brings me to an interesting comparison when I think of "Truths or Miss Truths" . Perfect example, my wife. If she has decided that the snow bank is purple... there is no way that she can be convinced otherwise.. It's really not what the color of the snow bank actually is but more an issue of what somebody wishes to believe or saving face. Telling them they are wrong is not the way to continue the discussion, as this will only bring conflict. Nobody wants to admit they are wrong and sometime its just better to let people believe what they wish, despite irrefutable evidence to the contrary...after all they are entitled to believe what they wish and this is what freedom of belief and expression is... So as aggravating, frustrating, and absolutely absurd as a claim, statement or a truth might sound... sometimes its better to just agree that the snow bank is purple... Mike, I wouldn't be too concerned about threat letters from lawyers... proving damages in Canada is extremely expensive and litigating or even the process to get to litigation will run into the upper 10's of thousands... so unless it's really something serious I'd blow it off...IMHO But I understand completely the dilemma of balancing freedom of expression and avoiding difficulties... Cheers P5
  17. Hi Mike, Totally agree!! No misinformation! In keeping with and I quote: " So, it is in everyone's best interest to refrain from spreading misinformation here on the forums" Would you be so kind as to remove any inference or associated language or posts that suggests that HAC has any involvement or concern with representation or the best interests as far as individual pilots are concerned, and is instead a mechanism for the owners and operators. Thanks P5
  18. Screw winter~ move to mexico and hybernate until its done... YUK!
  19. Okkayyy So there were no cups or mugs available in Camp? You were camping on the river? Or were you just stopping for snort between fuel cycles? In any regard you elected to take off a toe jam smelly boot add a shot of wiskey and drank it from the boot! Thats pretty gross dude! But different strokes for different folks I guess! **** its free country everyone is entitled to do strange things. Ok fill yur boots!!!
  20. Well, lowering hours worked, FDT etc. Could be the catalyst that operators need to go to customers and demand higher rates and stop the spiral to the bottom. Increase crew costs legislated by law could be a big boost or at least be a factor in stopping the low rate war?? P5
  21. I think legislation is the only way. Most operators or forestry forestry folks will quote the regs... You can do 14 hrs and if you don't there will be somebody who will! Sure there are responsible ops mangers out there that will say ok well change you out after 2 weeks but they still want to keep forestry happy. What would happen if you went to the duty officer and said your starting to feel fatigued after 10-12 hrs.... It wouldn't be long before yur skidded from that fire . Assertive or not! Not welcome back!!! The better way is to legislate it !!! People understand this and expect the max ! P5
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