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I heard the trick is having observers relaying relative positions to the pilot.

 

Still dont think it would be easy though.

 

The military always has spotters even for the smaller ships. No offense to the military drivers but it's pretty routine to see a CH146 take 4 tries to make a regular pad landing outside our hangar when they come to refuel. I was blown away to find out that (allegedly) there are two spotters onboard giving direction for a ship (Bell 412) that a single Canadian bush pilot wouldn't have too much trouble with. Probably more confusion for the pilot than anything.

 

Kudos to that vertol driver for the technical maneuver.

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The military spend most of their time training. They have procedures for everything and they practise them even during the easiest flights.

So even if it seems strange for us that they have 2 spotters to land on a big pad, I think the procedure becomes very valuable when it comes to land on an unknown confined area with night vision goggles that reduce your angle of vision. :blink:

Both the spotter and the pilot know at that time that each one knows his job.

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The military always has spotters even for the smaller ships. No offense to the military drivers but it's pretty routine to see a CH146 take 4 tries to make a regular pad landing outside our hangar when they come to refuel. I was blown away to find out that (allegedly) there are two spotters onboard giving direction for a ship (Bell 412) that a single Canadian bush pilot wouldn't have too much trouble with. Probably more confusion for the pilot than anything.

 

Kudos to that vertol driver for the technical maneuver.

 

Alright, offense taken. I'm a military driver who flies a CH146. First of all, the only unit close to Whistler is in Edmonton, and I can count on 1 hand the number of times we've been there, so to say it is "pretty routine" would be a gross over-estimation. Second, we have 1 "spotter" and he normally shuts up for routine landings... don't worry boys, we can land our helicopters on a parking spot the first time without a spotter! Crazy, I know. I personally have never seen anyone take more than one try at putting a machine on a pad. You don't think we practice landing? Not saying a mulitple attempt hasn't been done, but to stereotype like that is ridiculous. Third, it is not confusing to use our Flight Engineer to con us to a confined area or any other LZ, it is how we operate. Sure, we don't long line, but we do NVG formation flights in winter where not only are you dealing with your snow ball, but the rest of the formations as well. We conduct rappel with the infantry, where holding a 200' hover is mandatory to allow the boys to get in safely... amongst many other demanding tasks, much like anyone who flies any helicopter can attest to.

 

Why do people think that because we are in the military we are different pilots? I could easily be flying for Canadian right now doing the civilian job, but I joined the military. Doesn't make me any less of a pilot. We operate differently because we have to. I have a very high level of respect for civilian operators, flying any helicopter is a tough job.

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Good reply, Pilsner. Thanks for giving the military perspective!

 

Spotters notwithstanding, parking the a*s end of the machine, some 40' or so behind me, onto a pad and holding it there looks like some darned good piloting to me!!

 

D!ck

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