Vortex Ring State Versus Settling With Power.

[cap]

'Spike knock'.........could that be what happened when Allouette II's from the French Navy landed on the decks of their Aircraft Carriers in a heaving sea. S.O.P. was to come to a hover approximately 100' above the heaving deck and then 'bottom' the collective to land SOLIDLY on that heaving deck......and this I've seen on video many years ago. I believe that landing would 'knock' someone's 'spike'.......specially if they were from the maintenance side.

[rotorheadrob]

Vortex ring state is an aerodynamic condition, setteling with power in simply case of physics.

 

 

Rob

[deuce bigalow]

Vortex ring state is an aerodynamic condition, setteling with power in simply case of physics.

 

 

Rob

 

 

and spike knock is an embarrassing medical condition?

[06HeliMAN]

I remember I was taught that setting with power was another term for the vortex ring state.

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I remember I was taught that setting with power was another term for the vortex ring state.

 

 

No offense, but you were taught wrong.

 

Interesting thread however.

 

AR

[06HeliMAN]

No offense, but you were taught wrong.

 

My instructor was inexperienced back then. I'm sure he knows the difference now considering how much experience he now has. Not talking bad about him - he was one good instructor!

[deuce bigalow]

No offense, but you were taught wrong.

 

Interesting thread however.

 

AR

 

note. 06 helimans location is USA. And in USA they do teach that they are the same thing. I have no idea why there would not be agreement and so far as I know USA is the only

country that embraces this notion.

 

They got their own way to rock and that's why we love em.

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Ah yes, 'merican... Didn't see the locale the first time around.

 

Yes, that confuses me too, but having flown down there in years past, there are definitely some differences in thought.

 

AR

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Deuce .........things might have changed in the interim, but I was taught the same as you were about both of these subjects when I took R/W training with the American military. Perhaps there's a new way of thinking nowadays, but as I remember the only difference between both countries at that time was in F/W IFR and that had to do with the shape of the 'Holding Patterns'........one was 'race track' and the other wasn't, but even that wasn't a big deal.

[06HeliMAN]

Maybe I should have huh...been a Canadian? We Americans are so different.