Mike Reyno Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Just saw incredible footage of an NBC News chopper crash in New York this evening. AStar spun out of control, hit a building before breaking up on a second story building. Amazingly all three survived. Follow link. http://www.wnbc.com/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
407 Driver Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 another link Astar Crash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heli Ops Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Very very lucky to get out of that one alive. Bet you they have a **** of a headache. By the way werent they the same operation that crashed the EC135 in NY some time ago. Heli Ops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitchlink Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Here is an update clip with more video fo the a-star prior to touchdown. Everyone is doing ok according to the report. Amazing!! pl Video Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-rex Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 I guess, some people have an angel looking over them......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Reyno Posted May 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 On CTV this morning the headline was 'Helicopter Makes Emergency Landing' as it was referring to the crash. Three very lucky people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downwash Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 The control problems appear to be more complex than a loss of anti-torque. We're thinking here that this could be the dreaded hydraulic failure, given the gyrations and what appear to be near recoveries. Thank God they all got out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downwash Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 No argument, Mag. All of the turning to the left could be either jammed left pedal or LTE. The gyrations are not inconsistent with the spatial disorientation that can accompany associated turning. However, the turning isn't too drastic, which could point to some other loss of control, possibly hydraulics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-rex Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 I attend to agree with downwash on the controllability of the aircraft. LTE, jammed pedal of sort, or hydraulic loss with little or no airspeed. Time should tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullcap Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 From Pitchlink's link you can tell the a/c had an emergency inflight well before the hover. Thus ruling out LTE. All turns left indicate what the pilot related to witness that he had a t/r problem. Looks as though he did a good job at trying to put the bird down on top of building rather than busy street. I couldn't tell if t/r was turning but even if it was and the aircraft had jammed left pedal is as hard if not harder to control then loss of drive. Also, inconsistant gyrations are consistant with input from collective and cyclic in an attempt to slow down rate of turn, looks to me like t/r problem. sc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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