drkrider Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 I've seen contract biding processes in other industries where they throw out the bottom 2 bids and the top 2 bids immediately. Then look at the bidders that are left. DR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oopsydaisy Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Hey I have a brilliant plan to stick it to "The Man" A.K.A ASRD On June 15th, 2010 at exactly noon all pilots/engineers walk off the fire line (assuming there are fires) Lets see if we can unite the so called ununited and go on strike. At the end of the day we all basically do the same job we just wear different colors. How much fun would that be to send a message? This is my 14th year in the industry and boy a shake up is long overdue! How long do you figure it would take before forestry would smarten up? I think it would be a hoot! We all wander away and head to the pub for the rest of the day or week until the point is proven. Good times, Good times! but not very likely! Dare to dream Arnold, dare to dream! Oops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47G Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 You can't blame the Forestry guys who are out there trying to do their jobs. The decision as to who is hired for these contract rests with the bean counters who ASSUME that all helicopter operators meet the requirements of Transport Canada and provide safe, properly maintained helicopters and properly trained crews for any contract they bid on (that's not to say that some don't ). The bean counters don't really care if the operator makes a profit or not. All they see is a rate that is bid and more than likely think even the lowest bid is way too high since they may be used to contracting for trucks, dozers or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotorheadrob Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 I believe this is an area that an assosiation like HEPAC could help with! rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helilog56 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Interesting tidbit hiding there. Curious to know more, is all. Approximate time-frame, Bob? Do you remember? It was 1987 TQN......my last year in the Okie circuit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullcap Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 It was 1987 TQN......my last year in the Okie circuit! Am trying to remember but wasn't it called the STAR exam? For the shape of diagram when all the profiled points were entered.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewey Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Am trying to remember but wasn't it called the STAR exam? For the shape of diagram when all the profiled points were entered.... The beginning of behavioral interview: THE STAR METHOD The STAR method is a structured manner of responding to a behavioral-based interview question by discussing the specific situation, task, action, and result of the situation you are describing. Situation: Describe the situation that you were in or the task that you needed to accomplish. You must describe a specific event or situation, not a generalized description of what you have done in the past. Be sure to give enough detail for the interviewer to understand. This situation can be from a previous job, from a volunteer experience, or any relevant event. Task: What goal were you working toward? Action: Describe the actions you took to address the situation with an appropriate amount of detail and keep the focus on YOU. What specific steps did you take and what was your particular contribution? Be careful that you don’t describe what the team or group did when talking about a project, but what you actually did. Use the word “I,” not “we” when describing actions. Result: Describe the outcome of your actions and don’t be shy about taking credit for your behavior. What happened? How did the event end? What did you accomplish? What did you learn? Make sure your answer contains multiple positive results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Point of history: Transport, either as DOT or TC, has never had anything to do with tariffs and rates. The Air Transport Committee of the former Canadian Transport Commission was the licensing and tariff-approving agency before today's Canadian Transport Agency, which does oversee tariffs but, rather than to approve them, is supposed to check that you're applying them. Point of Information: Alberta SRD has been LEGISLATED to invite any and all appropriately licensed and certified carriers to bid their work which is a principal reason they have had their beetle contractors provide most of their own helicopter service, rather than provide the aircraft. Another: I'm usually one of the first, and loudest, to criticize 'bottom feeding' but, in these ugly times I have a little more sympathy for operators whose fixed costs are going to be there whether they fly or not, but they can pay their pilots and engineers something, rather than nothing, if they get some revenue that covers their variable (hourly) operating costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whop Whop Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I just heard about the rates on the latest Pine Beetle Contract, where yet again the rate of $944/hour came up again......... for a Bell 47 !!! I nearly fell off my chair laughing. Well done CM. I hope to h*ll forestry gets the point. :up: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helidriver68 Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 anyone get the results for the newest bids in whitecourt for the 100 hours that closed yesterday , can you post them on here , so we can have another laugh , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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