Helilog56 Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Looks like our posts crossed, Helilog. You're right, I made the mistake of posting hastily — hopefully I clarified in my post above. Sorry.....I do not type as fast as some ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elan Head Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Speaking of "anti-authority," here's an FAA Advisory Circular that some of you might find interesting: http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/ad...ocumentID/22624 It includes the hazardous attitudes self-assessment test I was referring to. It's a cumbersome test to score, but it's interesting, because it doesn't let you off the hook: it presents you with scenarios in which you've made a bad decision, and you don't have the option of saying "I would never do that." (In other words, if the test hadn't identified me as anti-authority, it would have identified me as macho, impulsive, invulnerable, or resigned.) Good food for thought! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest plumber Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 So it's OK to take the chance? You (and others) might still end up carried by the 6. I'm glad it had a happy ending as well. I just sometimes worry about the thought processes that go before a decision that lead to an unhappy ending. If I had clarity in everthing I did in life I wouldn't be on this sight. My point is we all want to help, we sometimes have clouded judgement. In the spur of the moment I would have done the same, the girl is safe and her dad is still her Dad. The only thing that went wrong was the media was there. All the best guys and girls. Fly safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bif Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Not a good time to be a cowboy here: http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-wells-he...0,6031814.story All walked away with minor injuries luckily Any ideas on causes of this one? Steep dive leading to servo transparency in the attempted recovery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimit Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 1. "Where am I gonna go WHEN (not if) the stove quits?" This tends to curtail any Cowboy impulses I get. 2. I'd give my life for MY wife or daughter, but NOT for yours. Sorry. 3. Seatbelts are mandatory. This includes stretchers. 4. Aircraft limits are not "optional". 5. "Your Honour, we did everything reasonably possible to protect the patient during this evacuation. Also, it was the opinion of the 1st responders on the scene at the time that if the patient was not evacuated IMMEDIATELY he most certainly would have passed away. If I am guilty of anything beyond exercising due care and attention while trying to save the patient's life I must accept the consequences of my actions." 6. It's a bit shocking how much we confuse good luck with good planning. It's a self-reinforcing illusion, until the inevitable occurs. I had the 'good luck' to dodge the Reaper while learning this (years ago, before aviation), but it was a close thing. Take good care, Dick Mitten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skids Up Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 The only thing that went wrong was the media was there. These are the statements that: scare me train the new guys the wrong way make us think we can do it "the right (our) way" again Just my opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skids Up Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Elan, according to the FAA hazardous attitudes assessment test Where can we find this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Croucher Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 This anti-authority thing - on my CRM courses, I teach that one should be a little anti-authority, as it protects you from pushy passengers and management. This is part of having a good opinion of yourself, and what my missis calls being big-headed If you don't have a good opinion of yourself, this is picked up by said people above and exploited. Being a Captain comes from inside - you can wear as much uniform and gold braid as you wish, but until you think you're a Captain, nobody else will. If you manage to find that assessment thing, bear in mind that you will be a different mix of "undesirable attitudes" at different parts of the day. It depends on how many nobs you have to deal with. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elan Head Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Elan, Where can we find this? Hi Skids Up — I posted the link above, or here it is again: http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/ad...ocumentID/22624 (It starts on page 5 of the Advisory Circular, which you can download as pdfs.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 1. logging, your a hero when your pulling wood in 0/0 viz or at least thats what i heard in the bar 2. logging , your a hero when sling shoting wood off the hill, or at least thats what i heard in the bar 3. Drills, when you move that engine, when nobody else could, or at least that what i heard in the bar 4. Drills, its ok to run with low fuel light on, or at least that what heard in the bar. 4. Seismic, when you take that extra bag, even when your dragging them out of staging, or at least thats what i heard in the bar. 5. Seismic, Drills, logging. naaa thats pads big enough, cause i'm a super star, or at least that what i heard in the bar. 6. Fires, when you kick the bucket way out in front, dunk it, and fly right through with out ever coming to a hover, or at lest thats what heard in the bar. Have we been in the bar together?????.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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