Bailey Thread

[pilot5]

Bollocks

 

If the bullet if real or imagainary it all comes down to intent.

 

To remove permanently by force or otherwise its the intent that counts!

 

Its the intent that determine the differnce in law and any other train of modern thinking.

 

If you intend ( intent)to remove permananetly then the point is made.

 

This individual clearly cannot accepet the fact that other people are entiltled to an opinion. Therefor his intent is to remove the agitator by censorship, banning or otherwise.

 

Hitler did the same thing but by force but his intent was to justify the action by whatever means to suit his belief that a certain group was non desired.

 

P5

[CJM91]

Seriously....people need to HTFU. It's just the internet.

 

How many more threads are required..."Why can't everyone be professional and polite?". Boo-frickity-hoo. Why? Because it's the internet. Grow a pair and deal with it.

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MM, you're known for TIC comments I think, but do you really mean that "because it's the Internet" we don't need to be "professional and polite"?

 

Maybe you're pulling our chains but I don't think the medium is any excuse for boorish or insensitive behaviour. I thought we were dealing with it, or trying to.

 

Please clarify if I've got this wrong, Cheers . . . . .

[MMike]

MM, you're known for TIC comments I think, but do you really mean that "because it's the Internet" we don't need to be "professional and polite"?

 

Maybe you're pulling our chains but I don't think the medium is any excuse for boorish or insensitive behaviour. I thought we were dealing with it, or trying to.

 

Please clarify if I've got this wrong, Cheers . . . . .

 

You are correct. I don;t think people should be a-holes for the sake of being a-holes. But at the same time, as I said, people need to HTFU. Even if someone DOES offend your delicate sensibilities, be a man, and try not to throw a tantrum. That's really all I'm saying.

 

The age of "political correctness gone nuts", seems to be spilling into this forum.

 

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I blame the jews.

(Man I crack myself up)

[MEOB]

You are correct. I don;t think people should be a-holes for the sake of being a-holes. But at the same time, as I said, people need to HTFU. Even if someone DOES offend your delicate sensibilities, be a man, and try not to throw a tantrum. That's really all I'm saying.

 

The age of "political correctness gone nuts", seems to be spilling into this forum.

 

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I blame the jews.

(Man I crack myself up)

 

Agreed Its a forum, who gives a sh%#.This is the only forum that gets on with this crap. Grow up.Its someones opinion and just that.If you can learn some thing from the creative post on here then great. If not take it with a grain of salt.

Just my 2 cents.

[Lunchbox]

While this site is in fact privately owned and operated, it lives in the public domain. As far as I know, there are no membership rules, i.e. it is not limited to people with particular religious, political or other views of the world.

 

Yes, the internet is public domain, but the website is not. The streets are public domain, but my car is not. It is privately owned and operated, and just because a person wants a ride I have every right not to give them one if I so choose, just as they have every right to buy their own car for their own purposes. The web address verticalmag.com is a registered domain name, and as such fees are involved in the purchasing/renewing of the domain. The software used to create the website/forum are either purchased as licenced proprietary software or are created in-house by (presumably) paid vertical mag staff (or other contracted parties). Then there are the server and bandwidth costs. For us verticalmag.com is free but for the owners it is not. In essence, vertical mag pays money to give us an outlet (free of cost to us) to express ourselves. Some respect/responsibility is warranted in that exchange of services.

 

To me that implies that it is a public instrument of free speech and not subject to editing by management. We should be assured that the posts are not doctored to create any particular bias except that created by the posters themselves.

 

As the internet is public domain, you have every right to express your opinion all over the internet, by creating your own outlet (website/forum) to suit whatever purpose you choose. In fact, I challenge any of you to create your own 'uncensored, unmoderated, free expression' internet forum to see just how quickly and horribly it can degenerate into unrelated nonesense, flame wars, spam advertising, and porn. I've been there, done that, tried it, and have respect for those who do run a forum, because it ain't easy. It's easy to tell others how to run things. It's a whole different ball game when you are the one doing the actual running of things.

[Elvis]

If a poster is upsetting you use this option.

 

Manage your ignored users.

 

If you can't find it go to the top of the forum home at click on your name.

[CJM91]

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The age of "political correctness gone nuts", seems to be spilling into this forum.

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I'm just arguing for politeness and respect. I don't think these are in the realm of political correctness or go out of date. I'm fine with a range of opinion.

 

Cheers . . . .

 

Agreed Its a forum, who gives a sh%#.This is the only forum that gets on with this crap. Grow up.Its someones opinion and just that.If you can learn some thing from the creative post on here then great. If not take it with a grain of salt.

Just my 2 cents.

As above. Opinion is fine; abuse is not. The problem with "who gives a sh%#" is that not many will wade through the sh%# to ferret out the odd creative post. And why should we?

 

Forums that don't "get on with this crap" look like You-Tube or Craig's List, hardly a model to aspire to, not?

 

Cheers . . . .

[CJM91]

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In fact, I challenge any of you to create your own 'uncensored, unmoderated, free expression' internet forum to see just how quickly and horribly it can degenerate into unrelated nonesense, flame wars, spam advertising, and porn.

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Isn't that generally what we've got? And this is moderated.

 

To summarize: self regulation doesn't work, censorship is bad, rudeness and harassment will likely drive out other types of posters. Without effective self discipline we're left with the rude harassers and a few die-hard thoughtful posters who visit for their own reasons.

 

Just for reference: "You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use the Verticalmag.com Forums to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, rude, disrespectful, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law."

This seems fairly clear to me, Cheers . . . .

[MEOB]

As above. Opinion is fine; abuse is not. The problem with "who gives a sh%#" is that not many will wade through the sh%# to ferret out the odd creative post. And why should we?

 

Forums that don't "get on with this crap" look like You-Tube or Craig's List, hardly a model to aspire to, not?

 

Cheers . . . .

 

Have yet to find a creative post with any sh%$ to wade through. All Iam saying is that a few people get all worked up when few users express there "own opinions" that happens to not be filled with praise and sunshine. And then another thread like this comes up. Call it public forum or not sh&$ is going to happen unless you only let the scholar posters post and just let the others only read. What fun would that be. Its a forum .Theres good and theres bad.

[CJM91]

If a poster is upsetting you use this option.

 

Manage your ignored users.

 

If you can't find it go to the top of the forum home at click on your name.

This is a good idea but weeds out the odd good comment along with the rubbish. It boils down to self-moderated politeness and respect. Those that find those things important will probably leave. Will this lower the tone and value of the forum and is that important? I guess it depends who's left.

 

Cheers . . . .