deuce bigalow Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 The answer is simple. The Helicopter Pilots of Canada Union. Only when you have the power to park all the medium helicopters in Canada for a day will anything change Annnnnnndddddd..........thats when the fight started. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Continuous Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Annnnnnndddddd..........thats when the fight started. :lol: O.K. you get the dead horses Deuce and I'll bring the Louisville Sluggers! Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilot5 Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 The answer is simple. The Helicopter Pilots of Canada Union. Only when you have the power to park all the medium helicopters in Canada for a day will anything change We need some form of representation... before anything is going to change and your employments is protected,. May as well forget about the labour code.. ( favours the employer) forget about HAC as this is an arm of the establishment. Forget about a union industry wide... Logistically impossible to organize.. An association on the other hand could be a means to hold both larger customers like ASRD and those employers that waste people like toilet paper, accountable. Short of this I see no other solution to end the rampant amount of crap that saturates the industry at every level... And to think that when I was young and stupid I believed that this profession was one of gentlemen.. men and earnest professionals... Oh well ! youth is wasted on the young I guess... For the time being I shall remain content to be the Micheal Moore of the Industry! P5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMike Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Swing lowwwwwwww, sweet chariot...comin' for to carry me home......... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Continuous Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 We need some form of representation... before anything is going to change and your employments is protected,. May as well forget about the labour code.. ( favours the employer) forget about HAC as this is an arm of the establishment. Forget about a union industry wide... Logistically impossible to organize.. An association on the other hand could be a means to hold both larger customers like ASRD and those employers that waste people like toilet paper, accountable. Short of this I see no other solution to end the rampant amount of crap that saturates the industry at every level... And to think that when I was young and stupid I believed that this profession was one of gentlemen.. men and earnest professionals... Oh well ! youth is wasted on the young I guess... For the time being I shall remain content to be the Micheal Moore of the Industry! P5 :lol: Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skids Up Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 P5We need some form of representation... before anything is going to change and your employments is protected..., Isn't this what you tried to do as president of HEPAC?? Oh wait - you did support that, right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helicopterjim Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Only when you have the power to park all the medium helicopters in Canada What about the lights and the intermediates? What about the heavies? What about airplanes and balloons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilot5 Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Isn't this what you tried to do as president of HEPAC?? Oh wait - you did support that, right?? You bet ya I supported HEPAC, but not as the president. I would have gone about things in a slightly different manor working in the field grass roots signing guys/gals up one by one. Im pretty sure that there were close to 100 that signed on..buy the time it started to fade out.. The only reason it faded out is because the mgmt. couldnt take a stand on anything and I guess was seen as a little wishy washy on some sensitive subjects... Who knows could come back...in time. P5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hybrid Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 I don't know, in my experience forestry in every province for the most part is about the most civilized flying I have done. Sure it gets very disorganized at times, but so does logging, seismic, drill camps etc. etc. Sometimes some forestry personal tries to push their agenda, but in my experience they back off quickly if you stand your ground. Any type of flying demands that the pilot has to fend for themselves, if you shutdown on a safety call on fires they are forced to address the problem. I can't and won't comment on how the accident in Slave Lake was handled, I wasn't there. I have seen 2 pilots run off fires in 16 years, they were both with very good cause. If you can't stay employed on forestry I think you might do some soul searching as to why. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
212wrench Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 The answer is simple. The Helicopter Pilots of Canada Union. Only when you have the power to park all the medium helicopters in Canada for a day will anything change Works for the post office and the automakers. :punk: I don't care who you are, that right there is funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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