Fred Lewis Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 I agree Oil Pressure 14 hours is a long day. But it what frosts me is these large companies with averaging policies that are disrespectful of employees. I know of a couple of operators that allow 2 hours recorded more than flight time. Example you start at 7 am and work until 7 pm and fly 2 hours you can accumulate 4 hours. Takes a long time to build up the 2080 hours for the year. I feel am required at work from 7 to 7 that's 12 hours in my world. I have even heard of time sitting in the bush swatting bugs as a$$$ time. Steve Schulte If I have confused anybody please pm. Freddie, I work for a small company who very recently adopted the averaging system. It was explained to me that if I'm at the hangar from 0700 to 1900 (12hrs) and flew for 2 hours and worked on ops gear for 1 hour,I"m allowed to record 3 hours worked plus an extra 1 hour for pre and post flight duties (DI and log book entries ect..or a half hour on each end) for a grand total of 4 hours worked. Not 12hrs!!!! In other words, I'm only allowed to record actual worked hours. If I'm on a mountain top waiting for my customers to finish up on a repeater, and it takes 6 hours to do so,I cannot record that time as 6 hours worked towards the 2080hrs.They consider that a$$ time. That part bogals my mind..If I'm not at home serving my beautiful wife mojito's on the back porch but instead being on a mountain top waiting on customers then what the heck am I doing? If I end up working over the 2080hrs per year they'll sit me at home because they refuse to pay overtime. By law they have that choice. I certainly don't agree with this. Now this forces the pilot to make a decision....Do I fudge the "Worked Hours" in fear of sitting me and losing flight pay? Hmmmm....what to do??? Freddie, you do have it right. If an employer wishes to implement an averaging scheme, he must comply with section 169(2) of the Canada Labour Code and section 6 of the Canada Labour Standards Regulations . If the employer does not follow the regulations, no averaging is in effect. The CLSR determines hourly wages this way . Does On Duty Waiting Time, On Call Waiting Time or Off Duty Waiting Time qualify as time worked? No definition of these concepts could be found in either the CLC or the CLSR. The Courts will often refer to the laws and regulations in other jurisdictions for guidance in making such determinations. The United States Department of Labor’s stance on the three definitions in question will make an excellent argument in any Canadian court. Please examine Deveault v. The Minister of National Revenue to see why the Tax Court of Canada sided with a bus driver on the matter of waiting time. The details of the case seem to be applicable to helicopter operations. If you have been taken advantage of by your employer, you owe it to your self-esteem as a man or woman and to the welfare of your family to rectify the unfairness. Stand up for what is rightfully yours. Is that not what Canada is about? To file a complaint, go to Human Resources and Skills Development Canada . It won’t cost you a thing. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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