skullcap Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 When I stated am in I refer to an association, not to the one in the link above. Perhaps HEPAC could be resurrected to something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 I am sorry guys, that was my screw-up, I meant the new and improved site, and not the "union" site. Maybe I should just shut up and go away. Maury 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidz Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 What new and improved site ? All Fred did was put up open-source forum software on his pro-union site and declare that it was the CHPA. If you want to start an association, you need a group of credible, determined individuals prepared to put a little bit of their time to establish a structure, even a very basic one, to get the ball rolling. You can't just fire up a new forum, collect people's personal information and call that an association. Do we want something credible that industry stakeholders will take seriously or just another venue to vent our frustration ? Don't go away Maury. You're not perfect. No one is. We all make mistakes. At least you're trying to make some constructive suggestions and not just bitching and whining like some... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 I agree totally with you skidz but I think we have to take baby steps here so that we do not scare pilots away. The site has only been up for a couple of days. Eventually I personally would like to see a paid staff, but until there are a bunch more members, that is unrealistic. By the way, what do you mean I am not perfect - obviously you don't know me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidz Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 I agree Maury, but those baby steps have to be done right... We're all perfect in our own minds. I think that's a pre-requisite to become a pilot... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 It's worth a shot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest driver81 Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 COPA (Canadian Owners and Pilot Association) is a great example of what an association can do. They have lobbied Nav Canada, Transport Canada, Parks Canada, ect... All for the views of their members (mostly private pilots) and have made some great changes. They also have group insurance rates for members. So an association for Helicopters Pilots done properly could be good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosstube Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 I am ready to sign in like I did with HEPAC, but the link brings you to another helicopter forum, looks that way anyway. Not exactly what I am looking for. CT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Don't despair yet, crosstube, the bugs have got to be worked out. We do not need another forum, but right now it is a good way to discuss how to proceed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidz Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 I've started a fresh topic on creating a professional association for Canadian helicopter pilots: http://forums.verticalmag.com/index.php?showtopic=22136 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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