WCO Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Members here with significant time on the L1 in utility work? What did you think of it? Never flown one though they show up well priced fairly frequently, could be worrisome, could be a decent opportunity. Yes we'd rather an L3, L4, B2, 407, B3, but they're priced differently, would like to focus on how the L1 fares here rather than scale up the conversation. Is it true most operational L1s weigh about 2200lbs? Should be able to move in the neighbourhood of 1500lbs on the hook at 50% fuel with a 200lb pilot? Any weak points? There's always the inevitable question of what will you be doing, answer is as usual everything, general utility from sea level to 7,500' that the machine can safely accept. Appreciate thoughts from those with L1 seat meat time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-rex Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 The C28 will start temping out when it gets warm outside, I want to say 25C. The L1 can be upgraded to the C30 engine, which makes it an L3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 The C28 engine is no longer supported, so pretty much all of them have been converted to a C30. If you find one that hasn't, you will have to upgrade at some point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGP Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 What Trex said...c28 will temp out working heavy at 25C. I have heard that you can't find parts for a C28 engine anymore or even get it O/H. I would check that out first! It will do what an L3 will at lower temps. Some of the ones that I flew had their Bled valves removed and could not go above 3000 ft . This was done to help the temping out problems. 2200 empty would be stretching it...2300 was commom. L3 and L4 usually around 2600. The L4 will make an L3 look sick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCO Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Really appreciate the replies thank you, I'd been looking into the C28 and I could find little on it that was current and that explains everything. I'm presuming the C30 is more than a different compressor, it's never that simple. I'm going to hazard a guess some of those well priced L1s I've been seeing are C28 powered, makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRO Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Check your mail.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88is Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 The LR's we have are almost 2600lbs with a high gear, basket and bubble window. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amphibious Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 C28, get used to scrubbing tail booms. I’d rather fly an LR. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGP Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 They have had a fix for old smokie long ago...clean burn combustion can...just more money on a loosing proposition. The L4 I flew was a locomotive until they got the can...a lot less scrubbing of the booms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGP Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 That's the ship I flew to SA. Lots of spray time on her.If you want an L you should get an L4. The high altitude tailrotor would be a good choice as well . At full gross weight coming off an elevated truck pad on a hot day,low altitude you will run out of left pedal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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