Pool pilot Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 38 minutes ago, simpleton said: This....I've sat through their meetings, and this is true. HAC is no savior. This is so sad.... I was hoping with a new leader..... at least something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopterlol Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 Name me 3 positive changes HAC has made in the past decade. Maintaining a glorified phone book doesnt count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool pilot Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 Just now, chopterlol said: Name me 3 positive changes HAC has made in the past decade. Maintaining a glorified phone book doesnt count. 1... Fred 2.... got nothing 3... still got nothing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full On Posted February 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 17 minutes ago, Pool pilot said: 1... Fred 2.... got nothing 3... still got nothing Lets not go sideways on this post...It's about the restrictions contrail is enforcing on our industry, with pilot magic experience numbers and deciding what is to old an airframe to be flying in Canada. I can understand how some operators may be reluctant to comment on anything to do with contrail for fear of being blackballed and then Contrail having a vendetta against them. I am not going to let this issue go to rest. Any operator that has info about their experience good or bad with the magic contrail experience numbers and older airframes not being on the "contrail List" of acceptable airframes then feel free to pm me and I will post these experience without naming the company suppling the facts. Something seriously has to be done, I refuse to put my head in the sand and pretend that what they say is gospel according to safety. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool pilot Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 50 minutes ago, Full On said: Lets not go sideways on this post...It's about the restrictions contrail is enforcing on our industry, with pilot magic experience numbers and deciding what is to old an airframe to be flying in Canada. I can understand how some operators may be reluctant to comment on anything to do with contrail for fear of being blackballed and then Contrail having a vendetta against them. I am not going to let this issue go to rest. Any operator that has info about their experience good or bad with the magic contrail experience numbers and older airframes not being on the "contrail List" of acceptable airframes then feel free to pm me and I will post these experience without naming the company suppling the facts. Something seriously has to be done, I refuse to put my head in the sand and pretend that what they say is gospel according to safety. You are so very right about not letting this go sideways. I apologize and will not harm this thread again with a stupid comment like I did here. Again.... my sincere apologies. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full On Posted February 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pool pilot said: You are so very right about not letting this go sideways. I apologize and will not harm this thread again with a stupid comment like I did here. Again.... my sincere apologies. Dan No worries Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool pilot Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Full On said: No worries Dan. Thanks. But you are trying to do a good thing here for the industry and our Canadian low time pilots. You don't need this to go into a mud slinging mess. I will back you where I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full On Posted February 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, Pool pilot said: Thanks. But you are trying to do a good thing here for the industry and our Canadian low time pilots. You don't need this to go into a mud slinging mess. I will back you where I can. Much appreciated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full On Posted February 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 22 hours ago, simpleton said: Because Contrail's standards are not really Contrail's standards.....they're Contrail's clients standards. Contrail gets delegated and paid to conduct audits on their behalf so that they do not need to have their own dedicated aviation auditors on staff. So, if you want to complain, call Cenovus, and CNRL, and Pembina ,and Encana, and Chevron, and CNOOC, and........... Got any contact info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleton Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 57 minutes ago, Full On said: Got any contact info? I'm not giving out contact info. What are you going to do if Contrail is gone...get the IS-BAO certifications, BARS standards, and OGC standards changed as well? You're beating a dead horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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