Pool pilot Posted June 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, twinstar_ca said: I personally think this was a great thread to start, pool... thanks for doing so... đđ Thanks for the compliment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJP Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 A natural "carrot" in the form of a weather forecast predicting whiskey clouds...6 hrs later...don't fall for the whiskey clouds! ....umffff and training bonds 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helipilot4 Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 I think the most common âcarrotâ these days is a schedule. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM119 Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Helipilot4 said: I think the most common âcarrotâ these days is a schedule. I havenât seen one legitimately honoured in Canada in 15 years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool pilot Posted June 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 My very first carrot was we will fly you lots if you come to this school. As the fellow was saying this to me a student walked up and said hey I have been here for 6 weeks and have only flown 5 hours and I am so far from home I want to get this done. I shook the instructors hand and went to a different school. I did not realize at the time most carrots never come to be true. But on the other side I have seen that a good operators don't offer a carrot..... they call you into the office and say we are going to do this for you.  4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 In my experience the carrot is usually offered after Iâve committed to moving on.  I always wondered why if I was good enough to be offered a medium endorsement (or something) after gave my notice, then why wasnât I beforeâŠ? đ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGP Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 One thing I learned the hard way...don't stay with one outfit for two long or you will become a piece of furniture...saw way two many new guys walk thru the door and right into a medium endorsement...and the next season you never saw them again! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
412driver Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 Interesting topic... Had to think about it as the grey matter seems to have forgotten more than it remembers. The issue with endorsements is true, and so silly. I worked at one company (same as Pool) and I got to the point where I wanted to move up to mediums and the company said no...not yet. I called another company and they said come on over and gave me the endorsement. First flight out had me land on the ramp in front of the old company. I still remember the Operations Manager come over and try to dis that company to which I replied: "Ya...but they gave me the endorsement". Been flying mediums ever since. As far as schedules? True...they can be a mess sometimes and this is the perfect industry for that BUT, depends on your contract. Case in point, this season, my contract laid out the exact days that I would work. I am pretty firm because I plan my summers. Got a call.... can you extend 5 days? Do I want to? No. Will I? Yes.  Why? It's a good company that does give me what I ask for. Sometimes $#@t happens beyond their control and so you help out. I guess I am saying, it is not so much the carrot and whether you get it or not... It's what you learn along the way and the crew member you become. Do it right and you will never look for work again. It will find you! I try to hide in Mexico but come February the Bendeco's all seem to find me! đ€ŁÂ  5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunchbox Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 "Don't worry, you'll get extra time off in the winter when it's slow" In regards to me (new/naive kid) asking about my vacation days/accumulated OT. "Ok, so when can I book my vacation/banked OT/extra time off?" "Uuuhh, well...that depends on how busy we'll be cause we may need you to cover......" They started paying/limiting OT and giving vacation days normally when they found out a bunch of us started talking to Labour Canada and lawyers about company employment policies the next year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1 Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 If you are offended by profanity, this clip may not be for you. This is in a slightly different context, but is how the carrot technique is taught in business school, or learned from others and adapted by whoever is running the business or operation in question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VReU7EgfPLc&ab_channel=BBCComedyGreats  1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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