R-22 Training Crash

[justfly]

Make an offering to the heli-god by supplying some donuts and coffee!

huh? all the heli-gods I've encountered required beer, scotch, and/or rum as a "sacrafice"

[Skidz]

huh?    all the heli-gods I've encountered required beer, scotch, and/or rum as a "sacrafice"

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Don't forget the virgins...

[Ryan]

I think most virgins know better than to hang around pilots.

[amodao]

I was concerned that by mentioning libations it would be politically incorrect.

A few outings to the ole' watering hole would also be acceptable to most.

[raqattack]

I once had a virgin - So what if she was 70.

 

I'd like to hear more detail from the young man about the rollover. (I remember another young fellow from a few years ago who never learned to land a helicopter without pedals, who ended up not walking away - neither did his student.)

[rotorhead wannabe]

Thanks for all the support guys!

 

I've talked with my instructor and he thinks we should be back up and running in a couple of weeks. Albeit with a rented machine and a rented instructor . That will have to do until the original instructor is through his refit.

 

Until then, it is days and days of AIP and CAR and nights and nights of flight sim... I think I will do some practice there where it is a little cheaper (and safer).

 

Feeling better, ready for some airtime :up:

 

RW

[helicopterjim]

I think most virgins know better than to hang around pilots.

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If a virgin hangs around a pilot she is no longer a virgin. Catch 22!!

[Low Level Lover]

Heard that the hovering auto practice was carried out on grass rather than on pavement. Is that correct and if so what are some of your opinions where as if practicing on pavement it may have been a little more foregiving allowing the skid gear to slide a little and possibly avoiding the roll over? Any thoughts?

[raqattack]

Grass or pavement it doesn't much matter, but it should be flat. The important thing to remember is to center cyclic and fully reduce collective pitch after completing the hovering auto landing, cut - pause - pull - collective down!

 

Sliding isn't the cause of a dynamic rollover, and cannot be corrected with cyclic force. Here the student stated, "I gave too much left cyclic and the instructor was unable to correct me with enough force / in time."

 

Properly executed the hoving auto becomes a perfect landing. Hopefully you will have many.

[Sticky]

Generally speaking a prospective pilot should be taught to hover before being taught hovering autorotations.

I don't think you can ever introduce any autorotations too early in a pilot's training. I always included one as a demo manoeuvre from the first lesson onwards to remove any mystique and anxiety about them. When they actually got to do one for themselves is another issue but certainly before first solo they would have seen and done many. Its a basic survival skill after all.

 

RW, its already been said by others but I too appreciate you providing the details of the accident so we can all learn from it...and of course remove any speculation. I'm sure there will be a few instructors out there reading your comments who will subconsciously follow through a little closer on the controls with their students for a while. Based on what you said it sounds like you have a solid and calm individual for an instructor. Count yourself lucky and hang on to him.

 

As for your employability...I think you could bring the pictures to an interview and it wouldn't have a negative impact as this was simply a training accident. (BTW, I'm being facetious about the pictures...pls don't bring them to your first meeting with the Chief Pilot because I said it was OK ).

 

Get back in the cockpit as soon as you can. :up: