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My thought is similar to what's in the first question...

 

Perhaps instead of cutting off supporters of Contrail, operators could unite and simply ignore Contrails mandates. Have a rep from each operator meet with their customers and explain why they refuse to abide by Contrails ideas. Invite a Contrail rep too so the customer doesn't feel they're getting one side of the story. Contrail can plead their issue, then have it blow up in their face when the operators list why it won't work in the real world.

 

If the customer still sides with Contrail, they would be SOL anyways if all operators unite. The tough part would be getting all operators to hold their ground over time, as customers start waving carrots in their face, trying to prompt them into following Contrail.

 

Sadly I doubt the answer is that easy though.

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Wow.....what ever happened to the good old days when operators actually maintained a good rapor with the customer(s). Something is missing in this poll, why not include "customers and operators, maintaining good to excellent communications"? Are the oil patch operators "that" isolated from their customers these days? Perhaps management, or better yet the president (owners) of any of the affected companies on both sides should be sitting around a table, along "with" Contrail, negotiating fair and feasible safety standards for all concerned. If operators are negligent in trying to take part, or find a better solution......I guess they get what they deserve..... <_<

 

Just my measly 2 cent take on all this..... ;)

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I have no problem with any consultant checking any operation I run - all I ask is that they know what they are talking about !

 

The best way to get rid of them is visit and educate your customers! You will be surprised what restrictions can be removed once they know that you know what you are doing!

 

We got quite a few low timers working simply by having a cystomer fly a circuit with them.

 

Phil

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Wow.....what ever happened to the good old days when operators actually maintained a good rapor with the customer(s). Something is missing in this poll, why not include "customers and operators, maintaining good to excellent communications"? Are the oil patch operators "that" isolated from their customers these days? Perhaps management, or better yet the president (owners) of any of the affected companies on both sides should be sitting around a table, along "with" Contrail, negotiating fair and feasible safety standards for all concerned. If operators are negligent in trying to take part, or find a better solution......I guess they get what they deserve..... <_<

 

Just my measly 2 cent take on all this..... ;)

 

Mebbe I'm missing something here, but don't most Canadian operators pay annual dues to HAC to represent their interests ? :huh: shouldn't HAC be that one voice presenting the operator'scase to the O&G industry ?

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You guys are making this way more complicated than it has to be. Assuming these latest rules are in fact real and not just rumor, simply abide by them to the letter and once the customers start loosing mucho donaros, the current status quo will quietly and magically reappear all by itself!

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you're forgetting jetbox, that it's not just the operator losing money that worries these guys, it's themselves. On the elusive 2 and 2 tour, imagine if half your time is spent waiting for the weather to meet contrails requirements. Most of these guys don't want to lose out, imagine how much smaller your paycheck is because of someone else's decision, PIC's hate being told what to do.

Personally, I feel Contrail is attempting to make the industry safer. The Oil companies have that attitude, which is why they hire contrail in the first place. Unfortunately, since our industry is not able to do much more than go for the ride, it's something that you guys are just going to have to ride out and see where it goes.

For you guys to want him out shows your position clearly. But why don't you start removing unsafe operators before you go after a guy who clearly has safety on his agenda.

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