Fenestron Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 the funny thing is that engineer errors are usually found on the ground before any problem arises, and that's thanks to the second set of eyes that should be looking things over. now turn that around and let the engineer flog along with you on your runs and suddenly the pilot mistakes become more evident. it's easy to hide small errors when you're all alone, nobody see's that slight overtorque/overtemp, nobody see's that too fast landing with the bobble and bounce, nobody sees....I could go on and on. Nobody is infallible, that's why a DI is your best defence and two pilots are required during high stress, workload jobs. Anyone want to continue with the "well, I had an engineer do...." or an engineer go "well I once had a pilot...."? go right ahead, it just shows your maturity as a team player.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Never started with the tie down on on anything, yet?? Almost, a couple times but as Cap stated. The 10 and 2 position saved me, had the finger on the starter ready to press, looked up and low and behold the blades were 12 and 6. Almost an oops. However, gas caps are another thing, Yep lost 2 on a 206 and should have lost one in an Astar. That step where we seem to put the cap while refueling is remarkably good at holding on to that cap. It sat in there for a 65nm flight to the Charlottes. Landed in Masset, went for the keys and, DOH! There it was in the step. WOW! That's all I can say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetechnic Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Shetechnic I'm pretty sure you are Canadian. We are "Aircraft Maintenance Engineers" Have a good day! Splitpin ummm..... was this supposed to be a witty comment?? lame.... Im a lover not a hater..... jeepers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splitpin Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 I'll bet the continuation of this post in driving Reddog nuts! :up: Keep the comments coming folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transientorque2 Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 the funny thing is that engineer errors are usually found on the ground before any problem arises, and that's thanks to the second set of eyes that should be looking things over. now turn that around and let the engineer flog along with you on your runs and suddenly the pilot mistakes become more evident. it's easy to hide small errors when you're all alone, nobody see's that slight overtorque/overtemp, nobody see's that too fast landing with the bobble and bounce, nobody sees....I could go on and on. Nobody is infallible, that's why a DI is your best defence and two pilots are required during high stress, workload jobs. Anyone want to continue with the "well, I had an engineer do...." or an engineer go "well I once had a pilot...."? go right ahead, it just shows your maturity as a team player.... Oh? I was told, "thats was transients were for" when us dummys screw up when we're alone and the customer is looking out the window and scinching down his seat belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee-eye Posted June 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 WOW guys......................thanks for allllllll the responses! That was great. I am sure to hold on to these lil mistakes and definately try to not duplicate them, thats the idea right? Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Remember dee-eye, learn from the mistakes of others as you will not have time to make them all yourself. :elvis: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 And to add a foot note to my last comment a DOM (and mentor) that I worked for said it was allowed to make a mistake but NEVER MAKE THE SAME ONE TWICE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphonso Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 I recommend putting the AStar fuel cap on the aft part of the transmission deck. Experience shows it can stay there for more than 140 nm. That's why I like a key that isn't glued in (did I put the cap on? is answered with a quick look for the key). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splitpin Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Yah-Hoo!! Keep the posts coming folks. Reddog should be over the edge by now. Lots of good stories here so far. We all learn from each other!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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