Fish Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 OK, I''ll go with misleading, and apologise for nasty posting when tired, agree? Gawd, I hope that I wasn't Lacking, misleading or stupid with that answer :shock: OK, nasty posting truce :up: . You were one of the three with that answer, but I'm not going to tell you which one . I was a little shocked when I was told the range of the 407, and I just wanted to confirm what I was told. Thanks alot 407 D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullcap Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Why was the B3 slow,,,, other than the obvious power settings it could be lots of reasons: it was slinging an equivalent Bell 206. :shock: it went to Revelstoke for lunch and came back. the pilot had to land and clean the soot off the window from the 407 it was following. they were flying backwards to avoid the sun in the window. or maybe it was so rough the pilot was going slow :down: the pilot was programing his phone/gps/radio maybe he had a nice lady like ol whathisname in the front and was prolonging the enjoyment. :up: maybe was really turbulent and was giving his boss a nice long ride on and on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 :up: :up: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
407 Driver Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 FISH, don't be shocked over the 407's short range, it's true, So if you have to go a long way ( slowly) hire an Astar. Skullcap, clever answers, but you forgot the obvious, HE SIMPLY COULDN'T KEEP UP :up: Why was the B3 slow,,,, other than the obvious power settings it could be lots of reasons: it was slinging an equivalent Bell 206. NOPE, Illegal to sling with passengers it went to Revelstoke for lunch and came back. NOPE, they already did that at 1200 the pilot had to land and clean the soot off the window from the 407 it was following. Now, that could be true they were flying backwards to avoid the sun in the window. Could be true, knowing the lack of directional stability in an Astar or maybe it was so rough the pilot was going slow Yes, the Hammers were out of tune the pilot was programing his phone/gps/radio Nope, that's normal pilot activities maybe he had a nice lady like ol whathisname in the front and was prolonging the enjoyment. Nope, unless he was Gay maybe was really turbulent and was giving his boss a nice long ride Perhaps, but in the superior 407, we never felt a bump on and on Over to you, you great source of backwards spinning Wisdom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwk Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Have they done anything about the Astars flaming out in the snow when your going slow, I know that you, 407D had an Astar in Golden flame out on your base pilot back in the winter of 93/94, and I beleive CHC had another one up in Ft Mc do the same about a year before that nasty accident. Short of not flying slow in the snow, for that reason alone I have never liked Astars, and I sure hope they have come up with a fail safe fix in the last 12 years or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
407 Driver Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 GWK...unfortunately, there were 3 here, March 94 (pool guy), April 96 (pool guy) and Feb 98 (yup, base guy). He done broke my favorite Astar 2 of those "snow" issues and 1 where a pilot ______ _______. (omitted for legal reasons :shock: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwk Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 So, have they come up with a fix yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
407 Driver Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 I believe everyone now runs some sort of particle separator system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwk Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Or jumps into a 407! Sorry to hear you had so many bad experiences with them, no wonder you,ve become such a staunch Bell man. One last thing I,ll say about the 407, if a person can fly 8+ hours in one, much less on the end of a 150' , and not be crippled by the end of the day, they have my vote. Fly safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
407 Driver Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Or jumps into a 407! Sorry to hear you had so many bad experiences with them, no wonder you,ve become such a staunch Bell man. One last thing I,ll say about the 407, if a person can fly 8+ hours in one, much less on the end of a 150' , and not be crippled by the end of the day, they have my vote. Fly safe I must admit, I've only attended a couple of Bell accidents, and all persons on board were fine. The 407 isn't for everyone, but at my slight 5'9" and 180 lbs I find it comfortable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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