Pilot Engineers

[donnybrook]

Just wondering what the current industry view is on pilot engineers? It was a popular combo a number of years ago, but has the opinion shifted as the industry has become more closely regulated? Also, can someone know enough and be current enough to excel at both?

[frenchwrench]

Having the second person to do the ICC's makes it harder,Most guys I know, haven't been using their licences,mainly because of non occuring recurrent training we are supposed to get. You still have to beg or threaten to quit in order to get a type course.

[donnybrook]

####, FrenchWrench,

 

When you say pay is a contributing factor what exactly do you mean? Pilot pay is substantially more? Or that pilot/engineer pay does not make the extra engineering licence worth it? What kind of numbers are we looking at for pilot/engineers vs pilots?

 

So in general, has the desire for P/Es diminished? I had heard that small companies love them, more bang for the buck...

[frenchwrench]

One reason to have both was you could do the ICS courses and had the engineer there to help you.and when not flying,you logged the hours toward the licence.If you fail your medical you are jobless .But an engineers licence is something to fall back on. and with the M1/2 setup, you can jump to fixed wing easier and back again.my daily is around double of the contract guys I work with. I get $25 an hour vs the pilots 25-60 depending on specialty. plus I get $400 for a 100 hr.

[donnybrook]

Frenchwrench,

 

Is that on lights or mediums?

[407 Driver]

....in 1980, I was getting $25/hour extra for doing all the wrenching on my 206B...!!!! ?????

[cyclic monkey]

Hey 407D, that sounds like quite a good deal..........why did you ever leave a company like that ???????

(Answer in 65,000 bitter, ranting words or less, if possible).

[407 Driver]

....under 65,000 ranting, bitter words on how my happy little BC company was bought up and killed by the Codfather?, sorry, those rules are far too restrictive....can't comply

[cyclic monkey]

407D, What are doing in the hangar at this time of day ????????

Shouldn't you and that big bucket be out there saving the forests, some trestles, or pick-up trucks from burning ??????

[407 Driver]

Ma Nature saved everything in this neck of the woods, it's raining here. The BC Mystery of Forests is laying off aircraft big time now, on account of all fires in the area are fogged-in mudpits. Even Parks Canada (that bottomless money pit) is going to lay off our L3 tomorrow, shame, after their IA crew just ordered snow shovels to continue the fight in KNP....