Foreign worker visas for Summer positions

[206_Fan]

4 hours ago, CM119 said:

Isn’t that a “working holiday”?  Can only do it once and you have to be between 18 and 35 with no dependents. 

Sorry wrong link. As far as I'm aware If a Canadian Operator wants to bring in a Foreign National to fill a Pilot spot through the Employer Specific Work Permit Program they need to prove they can't get a Canadian to fill that spot. If they're successful then the Government will issue an LMIA which is valid up to 6 months. Once this is issued the worker can begin the process of coming to Canada. 

https://www.canadim.com/blog/canadian-immigration-program-right/

https://www.canadim.com/work/lmia/

 

The other option is applying for Permanent Residency under the Federal Skilled Worker Program (Express Entry). To apply for this option your Job Title needs to fall under one of the Teer Categories. I checked and the flying position falls under Teer 2 (Air Pilots, Flight Engineers & Flying Instructors). 

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/find-national-occupation-code.html

 

[Razorback]

41 minutes ago, 206_Fan said:

Sorry wrong link. As far as I'm aware If a Canadian Operator wants to bring in a Foreign National to fill a Pilot spot through the Employer Specific Work Permit Program they need to prove they can't get a Canadian to fill that spot. If they're successful then the Government will issue an LMIA which is valid up to 6 months. Once this is issued the worker can begin the process of coming to Canada. 

https://www.canadim.com/blog/canadian-immigration-program-right/

https://www.canadim.com/work/lmia/

 

The other option is applying for Permanent Residency under the Federal Skilled Worker Program (Express Entry). To apply for this option your Job Title needs to fall under one of the Teer Categories. I checked and the flying position falls under Teer 2 (Air Pilots, Flight Engineers & Flying Instructors). 

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/find-national-occupation-code.html

 

I wonder how stiff the onus is on the employer for proof that they can’t get local workers.  Does ESDC and other governing bodies require a certain benchmark for wage by experience?  😑 

[206_Fan]

1 hour ago, Razorback said:

I wonder how stiff the onus is on the employer for proof that they can’t get local workers.  Does ESDC and other governing bodies require a certain benchmark for wage by experience?  😑 

I believe the Canadian employer has to advertise the position for a full month and then show proof if there was no interest from local workers! 

[Winnie]

5 hours ago, Razorback said:

I wonder how stiff the onus is on the employer for proof that they can’t get local workers.  Does ESDC and other governing bodies require a certain benchmark for wage by experience?  😑 

The onus is that they have to show no local applicants. and they are more stringent than they used to be. used to be that they would post the ad in some absurdly weird publication... now they have to post in a relevant publication or website.

[Razorback]

11 hours ago, Winnie said:

The onus is that they have to show no local applicants. and they are more stringent than they used to be. used to be that they would post the ad in some absurdly weird publication... now they have to post in a relevant publication or website.

….. what defines “relevant”?

[Winnie]

On 4/26/2024 at 9:16 AM, Razorback said:

….. what defines “relevant”?

well, you can't post a spray pilot position with exact hours that an individual has, in quilting monthly, it has to be industry specific, and they will check...

[Bee3]

You guys get your panties in a twist over foreign workers. #### sake…

 

[Tee4]

Better money in the USA and an E3 visa is super easy to get.

[CM119]

15 hours ago, Bee3 said:

You guys get your panties in a twist over foreign workers. #### sake…

 

No, you misunderstand, intelligent people in the industry don’t have any problem with foreign workers.  I personally work outside of Canada and overseas lots, but we ensure that it’s for a competitive fair market rate.  We market a niche service that largely isn’t available, so it isn’t hard to charge quite more than locals.  

The biggest problem with foreign workers in Canada, is an assurance that they are qualified for the job and being paid industry standard or more, and that comes down to the employer.  
These workers largely don’t know what fair wage and treatment is, especially ones coming from developing countries and/or countries saturated with VTOL workers (impossible to get hired).  

It is up to the employer to ensure they hire domestic appropriately skilled workers first before looking globally.  When you see people complaining about pilots from Australia, New Zealand, Africa, etc. it’s because they’re frustrated with employers (especially the ones that dabble in the grey area with wage and working condition, we all know who you are).  
There isn’t a lot of work in Canada anymore, mostly just seasonal emergency and government work which is pretty full.  

That all being said, it is up to the employer to:

•ensure hiring domestically first for fair market value

•hiring foreign workers at equal to or higher market value when there isn’t anyone else applying/skilled enough

•validate foreign workers experience (good luck)

•follow the labour code when it comes to work schedule (including emergency services, which have enhanced caveats) for foreign and domestic workers equally

•advertise in Canada before or at least the same time as advertising globally 

These all sound like basics to live by as a business operator doesn’t it?  

The reality is some do advertise globally to gain workers willing to work for far less than domestics while working months on end with no time off.  

These employers are the people industry do not like.
If we meet foreign workers in Canada  and become aware of worker or TFW abuse some do get initially aggravated with the individual, but ultimately it is the employer at fault.  

The foreign worker however does have a moral and legal obligation to :

•provide honesty with their resumes to employers, regarding experience, endorsements etc.

•ensure they are not working for less than local workers (do your research)

•follow the labour code for work hours and down time (don’t work illegally)

•follow the conditions of their work visa/work permit

 

[CM119]

22 hours ago, Winnie said:

well, you can't post a spray pilot position with exact hours that an individual has, in quilting monthly, it has to be industry specific, and they will check...

ESDC validates this? If not who is “They”