Long Line Training ?

[Zazu]

Well there was one thing that I wish someone had warned me about when I was trained to long line in 1979. Unfortunately I had to learn it the hard way.

 

 

Vortex ring state is very easy to induce when you are trying to put a heavy load down. I got it in a 47 Soloy so bad that i coiled most of the line on the ground before I started flying again. Out of control straight down at about 2000' per minute I'm guessing.

 

some scary stuff.

 

I would suggest during training to induce it at around 1000' to give the candidate a chance to fell how the machine starts to shudder and shake as it approaches the "no fly zone". That way theres lots of room to recover.

 

Yeah Deuce I'll second that...I once tried to plant 5400 hundred trees all at once that way!! Good point.

 

[RonnyRotor]

What ?// ya didnt read the book???

[Cez]

Vortex ring state is not the same as settling with power.

 

Though they are similar, they each are different in that one is pilot induced because of complacentcy (settling with power), and the other is an aerodynamic phenominon (vortex ring state).

 

You cannot induce vortex ring state. You CAN induce settling with power.

 

Once you understand the differences, then you can appropiately call each one accordingly.

 

Ceez.

[deuce bigalow]

Vortex ring state is not the same as settling with power.

 

Though they are similar, they each are different in that one is pilot induced because of complacentcy (settling with power), and the other is an aerodynamic phenominon (vortex ring state).

 

You cannot induce vortex ring state. You CAN induce settling with power.

 

Once you understand the differences, then you can appropiately call each one accordingly.

 

Ceez.

 

Really??

 

I will start this as a separate topic since I would like to hear some other opinions.