Logging Flight Time

[heliguy44]

So I am a low time pilot trying to build hours. I will get the odd chance to fly left seat on a aircraft with duals installed. However I don't have the type endorsement on my license. I was reading the AIM and CARS on this and I can't log it as per Transport Canada. 1 I am not indorsed on type. 2 the aircraft is single pilot certified. But my question is will employers and insurance companies recognize this as flight time towards the golden standard of 1000hr. Some people have said time in the seat is time in the seat, log it. So would these flights fall under the following "familiarization" flights?

 

 

LRA 3.7.3 In-flight Instruction (Dual): Licensed Pilots

 

(A) The holder of a valid commercial or airline transport pilot licence may give in-flight instruction for familiarization, refresher and instrument flight training, provided the pilot receiving the instruction holds a valid pilot licence endorsed for the type or class of aircraft in the same category as the aircraft used, and the person providing the instrument flight training meets the requirements specified in CAR 425.21(7). This authority does not permit category conversion training, e.g. aeroplane to helicopter, gyroplane to aeroplane, etc.

 

( The flight time acquired under (A) may be credited to the pilot-in-command as pilot-in-command time, and as dual flight time to the pilot receiving the training.

 

C) Not more than 3 hr of familiarization flight time acquired for any type or class of aircraft may be credited towards the flight time requirements for a higher type of licence.

 

Low time pilot trying to get hours.

[Freefall]

Most of the insurance companies and clients with requirements require PIC time.

[Amphibious]

not endorsed = cannot log. ******, but the way it works up here

 

Keep track of it all, but not in your logbook...

[heliguy44]

not endorsed = cannot log. ******, but the way it works up here

 

Keep track of it all, but not in your logbook...

 

 

I think thats what i'll be doing from now on.

[Helilog56]

There is no reason that it can not be categorized as "dual" time.....there is a colum in your log book for it. It can then be added to your "grand total"!!

[Amphibious]

There is no reason that it can not be categorized as "dual" time.....there is a colum in your log book for it. It can then be added to your "grand total"!!

 

 

only if the machine requires 2 pilots in CARs and you're endorsed....

 

or

 

http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/general/personnel/cop.htm

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only if the machine requires 2 pilots in CARs and you're endorsed....

 

or

 

http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/general/personnel/cop.htm

 

I think you are refering to co-pilot time amphibious.

[Helilog56]

only if the machine requires 2 pilots in CARs and you're endorsed....

 

or

 

http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/general/personnel/cop.htm

 

What you are reading is for the "issue of a Canadian Pilots Licence".

[heliguy44]

What you are reading is for the "issue of a Canadian Pilots Licence".

 

 

That's right this is more the issue of will employers accept it and insurance. Even government contracts, from what I understand you need 500hr. to fly fires, forestry ect. Who cares if i wait 1100 hours to get ATPL instead of 1000. Who knows if I'll ever bother with a ATPL in my career. But the extra hundred hours may make the differnce for a low-timer to get a job or have a busy summer rather than a slow one.

[Helilog56]

CARS standard 421 and subpart 401 cover what you are after. Its to large to copy and paste.

Go hit TC's website....its all there!

 

Cheers, H56