DrDukeSolomon Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Record #1 Cadors Number: 2011C1608 Reporting Region: Prairie & Northern Occurrence Information Occurrence Type: Accident Occurrence Date: 2011-05-16 Occurrence Time: 1930 Z Day Or Night: day-time Fatalities: 0 Injuries: 1 Canadian Aerodrome ID: CYLJ Aerodrome Name: Meadow Lake Occurrence Location: 8 NM E of Meadow Lake (CYLJ) Province: Saskatchewan Country: CANADA World Area: North America Reported By: TSB Winnipeg AOR Number: TSB Class Of Investigation: 5 TSB Occurrence No: A11C0076 Aircraft Information Flight #: Aircraft Category: Helicopter Country of Registration: CANADA Make: AEROSPATIALE Model: AS 350BA Year Built: 1980 Amateur Built: No Engine Make: TURBOMECA Engine Model: ARRIEL 1B Engine Type: Turbo shaft Gear Type: Land Phase of Flight: Cruise Damage: Substantial Owner: DELTA HELICOPTERS LTD. Operator: DELTA HELICOPTERS LTD. (1017) Operator Type: Commercial Event Information Collision with terrain ELT/SAR/comm search Loss of control - inflight Propeller/rotor strike Detail Information User Name: Ridley, Rod Date: 2011-05-18 Further Action Required: No O.P.I.: System Safety Narrative: The Delta Helicopters Aerospatiale AS350 BA, C-GVXA, was bucketing water in support of fire fighting operations near Meadow Lake, Saskatchewan. The winds were gusting out the SSE at 20 to 30 knots. The pilot was flying slowly just above tree top level in order to dump a load of water on a fire break area, when the nose of the helicopter suddenly swung to the left. The pilot added power, but the rotation increased. The pilot reduced power and lowered the collective. The helicopter entered the trees and came to rest on its right side with the tail boom separated from the helicopter. The pilot was transported to the Meadow Lake hospital and kept overnight for observation. RCC Trenton received an ELT from the helicopter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDukeSolomon Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Interesting thing about the above CADOR. The pilot added power, but the rotation increased. As it should to the left in an Astar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimit Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 There was a crew under the machine. The pilot sacrificed himself and the machine to protect the crew. As any of us would have tried to do. Dick Mitten 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvangenne Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Well said Dick. People really shouldn't post criticizing about how someone reacted in a situation when they don't know all the details. Please don't post unless you know all the facts. - Derek van Genne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Again Well said Dick. Inform the no it all's about the actual facts involved, and get the speculation out of the way. Milan P. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuddenStop Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Some of you need to get off your high horses. The duke stated a fact...pull power, rotation increases....no brainer there. what he did elude to was the fact CADORS needed to reference that. Its the same as if CADORS wrote "the pilot increased pitch and the helicopter flew into the air". Thats some basic physics that should be returned to grade 9. He did not make any suggestion whatsoever to the pilots decisions in pulling power. So get off his case and quit being such dicks about analysing every comment out of context. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R22Captain Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Rod always has a way with words;) bad string of machines getting bent and people getting hurt .....lets all be safe out there guys and gals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimit Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Pls do not use my first name as a perjorative, or the moderators will have to prohibit it again. Thanks, **** Mitten (Sorry for the thread drift) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R22Captain Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 hahaha nicely played :up: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 What the Duke said is actual fact, yes, My comment was not directed to the Duke but just to the fact of info gets passed along on this forum sometimes with a ton of speculation in tow. Its good to see that Mitten is putting the facts out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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