Fred Lewis Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 This is not an attempt to form a union. It is intended to be a vehicle through which holders of Canadian helicopter pilots licenses can debate issues important to them, reach a consensus on these issues and take whatever action the group determines to be appropriate. The internet is a fantastic tool for this sort of thing. Essentially, a meeting of the CHPA has begun and it can be continued indefinitely. The posts are an accurate record of proceedings. No minutes need be recorded. There seems to be no need for fees, an executive or a constitution. All members enjoy an equal status. While the legitimacy of any points of view advanced by CHPA "members" is contingent on them being bona fide helicopter pilots, it is equally important that all helicopter pilots participate regardless of their opinions. Even Helicopter Jim. The Canadian Helicopter Pilots Association Forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Nice work Fred Will definitely give this a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilles Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 The president of the Helicopter Association of Canada, the same person who wrote this to the Immigration Minister The Canadian helicopter industry depends on highly skilled seasonal foreign workers to supplement the growing shortage of experienced helicopter pilots in Canada. is now starting the Canadian Helicopter Pilot Association ? Should be a great success. I expect Canadian helicopter pilots to join in droves. I have a question. You did mention that one needed to be a bona fide helicopter pilot to join. That is clear. But do you have to be a Canadian helicopter pilot or can TFW helicopter pilots join as well ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helilog56 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 I think you have Fred Jones and Fred Lewis confused... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest driver81 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 The president of the Helicopter Association of Canada, the same person who wrote this to the Immigration Minister is now starting the Canadian Helicopter Pilot Association ? Should be a great success. I expect Canadian helicopter pilots to join in droves. I have a question. You did mention that one needed to be a bona fide helicopter pilot to join. That is clear. But do you have to be a Canadian helicopter pilot or can TFW helicopter pilots join as well ? I think it is a different Fred. Fred Jones president of HAC wrote the letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilles Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 My apologies ! They are not even similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilles Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Thats what I get for posting in a rush. Was on my way to work. Very sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitestone Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 What about the engineers? I think an association without them is half a loaf. W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0T0R Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 I agree about including engineers. They have a lousy lot compared to drivers. I'm a bit doubtful that this is going to work but I'll keep my pessimism in the cockpit...and here for now and see where this goes. Fred, I don't think license numbers should be displayed for the time being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidz Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 What about the engineers? I think an association without them is half a loaf. W. When we started HEPAC, the goal was to include both pilots and engineers. That actually made people even more suspicious as to our motives (ie fear of unions). A professional association is meant to group people of the same profession. If you group multiple professions in the same body, you look a lot more like something representing multiple trades working in the same industry (ie union). I agree AME's need representation too, but if you're going to do this right, the association needs to be specific to professional helicopter pilots (CPLH & ATPLH) if it is to be taken seriously by other stakeholders. Yes, helicopter pilots and their engineers work closely together, and certain concerns we have in common, but for the most part, they are very specific to each profession. That's my 2 bits on the subject... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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