Question:why Is The As350 Not Certified For Class C External Loads

[DGP]

That looks sweet!

[skullcap]

To bad that hook is not certified for class c or d,,,,,to my knowledge that is.

[Freewheel]

Is there anyone in Canada currently approved for  conducting Class C / pulling line in an AS350?

either on the hook, or using Mack-pull or other optional equipment....

[robottxt]

The flight manual has been changed.  Sup 13.2  rev 16-24.  

"The cargo hook system is approved for lifting external load which is jettisonable and lifted free of land or water during rotorcraft operation.

Operation with an external load which remains in contact with land, water or any fixed structure is not demonstrated by the manufacturer. These operations shall not be conducted without approval from the responsible authority in accordance with the applicable operational regulations.

The external loads are limited to Non Human External Cargo (NHEC) only.

Flight with an empty net or unballasted sling as an external load is prohibited unless approved operational limits and procedures provided by the operator allow for such an operation.

 

[Heliduck]

On 04/03/2015 at 7:20 AM, DGP said:

That looks sweet!

Meridian Helicopters Australia Facebook page has some operational photos of the Mack pull in action if you’re interested.

[Freewheel]

On 2017-12-07 at 0:13 PM, robottxt said:

The flight manual has been changed.  Sup 13.2  rev 16-24.  

"The cargo hook system is approved for lifting external load which is jettisonable and lifted free of land or water during rotorcraft operation.

Operation with an external load which remains in contact with land, water or any fixed structure is not demonstrated by the manufacturer. These operations shall not be conducted without approval from the responsible authority in accordance with the applicable operational regulations.

The external loads are limited to Non Human External Cargo (NHEC) only.

Flight with an empty net or unballasted sling as an external load is prohibited unless approved operational limits and procedures provided by the operator allow for such an operation.

 

I’m aware. But the question still remains: are there any operators currently approved. The B3 manual and B2 VEMD manual have been amended; B2, BA and D model haven’t.

airbus claims they received approval for B2 November 24 in the form of a letter from TC Certification, but TCCA says they haven’t and the Airbus revision status on their website does not show this amendment as approved.

Even with the amendment, there seems to be some confusion with TCCA as to whether the aircraft is certified for class c. Our TCCA authorities are unclear as to what “approval from the responsible authority in accordance with the applicable operational regulations.” Means.

 

 

[robottxt]

Look up the Airspan crash while doing Class C work.  The final TSB report is available, its a good read.   

[Freewheel]

1 hour ago, robottxt said:

Look up the Airspan crash while doing Class C work.  The final TSB report is available, its a good read.   

It is a good read. I’ve reviewed it extensively. You mean the one that says: 

“Findings as to risk:

If approved flight manual supplements are not complete and clear, there is a risk that operators will unknowingly conduct operations that are not approved.”

2.5 Year’s later and TCCA still isn’t clear what the Flight Manual Supppement means. Good thing we cleared that up. LOL

SAFETY FIRST!

[robottxt]

The old rule holds true.  Don't crash, then its not a problem.

Safety first, lol.    SMS has determined if we layoff/fire the staff who complain, the SMS problems go away.  JUST CULTURE

[Freewheel]

A bad system will beat a good person every time.