deuce Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Pretty sure this discussion only needs one sentence to be brought to conclusion. Operating/landing within the H/V curve is allowed, landing within a built up area without a permit is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggins Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Surely this thread is in jest? AR I agree. The answer maybe hidden in the title of this Mag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOPPERMIKE68 Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 This topic should be in the topic "I'm Not The Only One Bored This Week haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helicopterjim Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Operating/landing within the H/V curve is allowed, landing within a built up area without a permit is not. What does the flight manual say? If the height velocity curve is published in the limitations section then does it constitute a limitation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jacdor Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 What does the flight manual say? If the height velocity curve is published in the limitations section then does it constitute a limitation? Depends what FM you are looking at Jim. In the 205 it is in the limitation section. In the 206 it is in the performance section. I never checked in any other FM's There is also the "engine power take off limitation" wow if you want to hurt yourself, follow that one. Mind you there is a reason why it is there. JD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bif Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 This topic should be in the topic "I'm Not The Only One Bored This Week haha What? I won't have my thread soiled with such nonsense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmat Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 What does the flight manual say? If the height velocity curve is published in the limitations section then does it constitute a limitation? Yes if the height velocity chart is in the limitations section it is a limit like gross weight, vne, C of G etc. For example the S76A has a supplement that allows it to operate inside the HV curve, otherwise you would be bound to follow the HV chart in the limitations section in its flight manual, which would be difficult to abide by unless you only fly out of airports. Great ppc question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helicopterjim Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 if the height velocity chart is in the limitations section it is a limit like gross weight, vne, C of G etc. I wonder how many aircraft are breaking the law when longlining!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmat Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 I wonder how many aircraft are breaking the law when longlining!!! The types with the HV chart in the limitations section without a flight manual supplement. It would be interesting which ones are affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMike Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 I agree. The answer maybe hidden in the title of this Mag. Then what is the point of the h-v curve? I'm pretty sure I've noticed that helicopters CAN go straight up and down. So that's what you guys do most of the time? fly along at 1000 ft, find your landing spot, and just go straight down? Gosh. I feel so enlightened now. The most important thing I've learned on this forum? I now know why people say the things they do about pilots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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