Tee4 Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 Hi all, Wondering how everyone is going getting ready for these new regs. I've heard whispers that we may have to start wearing some kind of sleep tracker at night to be sure we're getting sufficient rest. Will be interesting to see how that is implemented 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0T0R Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 Good luck monitoring people on their time off duty. Pretty sure your source is not correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGP Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 Lets see...new flight duty times...new bottle to throttle hours...80 hrs of recurrent training exams plus actual stick time for recurrent... looks like staying at home is more attractive...this industry is going to crash and burn...and how are the poor operators going to make ends meet...well we all know that answer! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robottxt Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 8 hours ago, Tee4 said: Hi all, Wondering how everyone is going getting ready for these new regs. I've heard whispers that we may have to start wearing some kind of sleep tracker at night to be sure we're getting sufficient rest. Will be interesting to see how that is implemented Savvy companies have been exploring wearables. Other industries are using it in some cases to approve overtime. It's coming for companies with the resources to make up there own flight duty regs backed with data and not just "Drill pilots don't get tired". Here's a company that sells the wearables/tech https://fatiguescience.com/readi/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee4 Posted September 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 Good link, thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0T0R Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 Ina company wants to save money on labour by invading my privacy, they have another thing coming. Maybe instead of spending money on all this crap they could pay us a fair wage so we don’t have to cringe at the grocery store. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleton Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 Few companies are going to build their own custom fatigue management plans, as the regulatory requirements for one-off programs are too hard, and labour intensive, to manage for smaller operations. They'll just go with the prescribed regs instead. So extra help will be hired (if they can find it), and wages will increase to attract that nearly non-existent extra help. A few more bottom-feeder mom-and-pop operations will go under, since they won't be able to function, and the whole industry will be better off for it. The companies will all have to significantly increase their billing rates for clients to make this work. I expect some operators will change operations around and downsize into 702 operations only. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTR Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 Wear Able Devices - like house arrest - not a freakin hope in .... the hot place! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robottxt Posted September 17, 2022 Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 3 hours ago, OTR said: Wear Able Devices - like house arrest - not a freakin hope in .... the hot place! Give the device to someone else and crush beers all night with the 212 engineers. 6 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGP Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 I liked that line...Drill pilots don't get tired...reminded me of a time when I got woke up at 2 am ...guy says they needed something at the drill...I said its dark out...I will take it out at first light...guy says that will be too late and...that choppers has a light on it doesn't it? Dahhhh!!!! 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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