splitpin Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 I'm curious though when it'll be deemed offensive by someone and removed....oh well....tick tock....tick...tock...... No complaints from me Fenestron. It's been so long since I've seen them I'm not even sure what they are. :punk: :punk: :punk: :punk: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenestron Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 looks like the old one is back. I guess someone was offended. :down: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambox Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Ahhhhhhhhhh.............. After reading this last page, I can see why we still never get anywhere. To busy "shooting" each other down instead of being united! My opinion only, but............. R... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-rex Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Its easier for most to attack the person rather than the problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splitpin Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 looks like the old one is back. I guess someone was offended. :down: You've got to be kidding, right Fen?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenestron Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 all i see if my old one....do you still see the new one???? What a messed up bunch of bits and bytes. Kyle, fatal error flaw on isle 9, please send bruce to clean up the mess....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splitpin Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 all i see if my old one....do you still see the new one???? What a messed up bunch of bits and bytes. Kyle, fatal error flaw on isle 9, please send bruce to clean up the mess....... I see the new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helilog56 Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 I am hoping that a lot of you out there can look at the bigger picture of what HEPAC can become. What some of us are trying to build, is an association that will have some credibility......and quite frankly, that will have to come from it's membership. I am hoping that a lot of the C.P.s and D.O.M.s out there, would think of their position(s), as a building block between HEPAC and ownership.... "not", choosing sides. The purpose of HEPAC is to build a unified voice, and to assist developement in any future changes that will be affecting the industry for years to come. Also one of it's goals would be to work "with", the HAC and TC. Let's face it, when SMS is fully integated into our industry, it will be the flight crews, that will have to put "it" into pratice, on a daily basis, out in the fields.........so why would anyone think, that we should "not", have any input into this? I have been studying industry self management at great lengths also, especially what the CBAA (POC) has developed, It is proving to be a good model for the helicopter industry to follow. I would like to believe that if the HAC, was handed the responsibility for industry self management, they would be as responsible and thorough. Is there a possibility of "conflict of interest", well in theory, I suppose so, but independent audits can help lessen that possibility, and perhaps HEPAC, working in conjuntion with the HAC could provide good stewardship. It was mentioned on this thread about "afraid of change", well actually that is partially true, and a lot of it has been expressed by HAC members. I will admit, I was taken aback by "not one" mention or, "not one" acknowledgement towards flight crews in the HAC -AOC, Industry Self-Management Feasibility Study........no mention of how our roles and responsibilities are to be defined or how we would be trained ? Yes, it is only a preliminary study......but having acknowledged that, would "now" not be a good time, for "us " to have some input? Look outside the box of what HEPAC could become.......I would love to see educational and training programs, that could develope and further the skills of new pilots and engineers , a library (databank) of information and resources for members to access, maybe a scholarship or two when funds are available. A pool of experience to be passed along..........what owner would not think any of that would not be beneficial? And how about "you"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen1547 Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Helilog56 wins the award for most acronyms in one post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmac Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 ATTENTION: All Engineers/Pilots/Ground Crew/etc. The National Post has a blurb from HAC about Safety Management System. Not new, but interesting read. Don http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.h...a3-3f1b5b0ca691 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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