Work Permit Freeze

[old dog]

you know what?...with your attitude...thats why you dont have a job....in french....té rien qu'un ostie de trou du cul!!

 

Yup, 60 years of blackmailing the ROC - that works every time!

[happyfeet]

:shock:

[Dewey]

Back in the Seventies, Viking Helicopters had to set up a satellite base in Gatineau, Quebec to procure contracts on the James Bay project. They called this operation “Helair”. BlackMac will remember this.

 

After a couple of months on the job, SEBJ (the administrative body), came around and requested to see the auto Driver’s License for all the air crew. If the license had not been issued by the province of Quebec, they were to be sent home. Pilots did not win the argument that ensued but the maintenance crew managed to stay based on the grounds that the Maintenance Manuals were all written in English.

 

Just remember one thing about Quebec, they have their own immigration policy and do not rely on the Federal policy. That is why most immigrants that come to Canada, come through the gates at Montreal.

 

[worldywings]

 

Sorry worldwings, you got your info still mixed up.

 

 

 

 

Afraid not my friend....been there done that...more than once.

 

 

It is impossible to argue against forcing companies to train and mentor young pilots rather than outsourcing to cheap non nationals although you do try with those "essays" you write.

 

It is clear what your views are and why....so we will just agree to disagree

 

 

I think however you can take your "cowardly" and "lazy" comments tossed out at anyone who disagrees with you and shove them down under so to speak.

 

WW

[happyfeet]

WW

 

You hit the nail on the head about the resume writing. This BS has got to end. HRDC and CIC must make it mandatory to advert in known industry publishings, so that guys can find the adverts and these agencies know that a Canadian has applied for the jobs. This business of publishing wanted ads in small backwater town newspapers has got to end.

 

The market today and into the forseeable future for various resons will just have enough space for the high time well trained Canadians that are out there now, without jobs. And there are many.

 

I don't think there will be any room for permits in the forseeable future.

 

Such is life.

 

HF

[Happyguy]

you know what?...with your attitude...thats why you dont have a job....in french....té rien qu'un ostie de trou du cul!!

 

You are the epitome of the french dilema...in English...ARROGANT

 

I have over 15K hours working all over the world in cultures diverse and colourful and NEVER have I felt so alienated or threatened as I did one summer when I took a contract with Tran-Quebec to fly in James Bay,

 

IN MY OWN COUNTRY !!!!!!

 

....but then I'm sure you don't see it that way.........It's Quebec......and that's not Canada.

 

And then, to add insult to injury I discover they are importing pilots from France to fly there because none of the Canadian boys ( or so they said) could communicate with the SEBJ foreman in French or because they can't (won't) speak English.

 

Yeah, that was an experience that has left me with an impression of Quebec that is best left unsaid.

[happyfeet]

You are the epitome of the french dilema...in English...ARROGANT

 

I have over 15K hours working all over the world in cultures diverse and colourful and NEVER have I felt so alienated or threatened as I did one summer when I took a contract with Tran-Quebec to fly in James Bay,

 

IN MY OWN COUNTRY !!!!!!

 

....but then I'm sure you don't see it that way.........It's Quebec......and that's not Canada.

 

And then, to add insult to injury I discover they are importing pilots from France to fly there because none of the Canadian boys ( or so they said) could communicate with the SEBJ foreman in French or because they can't (won't) speak English.

 

Yeah, that was an experience that has left me with an impression of Quebec that is best left unsaid.

 

 

Sensing a little hostility here, it's never nice to be treated like a second class citizen.Can't say I disagree completely. I had a few rough "you english guy comments" but never from the Quebecers. Probably because I was born in Quebec speak a little french and they know I like putin. My bad experience was with a few guys from France . What an arrogant Lot. Oh my goodness.!!

 

 

[sherpa]

Happyfeet,

You are all worked up about foreigners working in Canada, right? For a matter of fact you’re so charged it would register on a Geiger counter. Correct me if I wrong, but aren’t you working in the UAE and being Canadian?

How did you end up in the UAE? Probably because you found greener pastures, right!! And of course there were “no locals” in the UAE and the jobs in Canada (for example) flying a B206 and being in camp wasn’t very appealing. You know those type of jobs were considered the low end positions but they still had certain requirement to please the costumer and insurance. Other positions required possessing a Night, IFR, ATP, Type… or who knows what rating. Now I let you do the math.

 

Now, and for whatever reason your contract in the UAE didn’t get extended/renewed you’re heading back to Canada and cry “wolf” about foreigners working in Canada. I can see you’re getting quite the support on this board. There is an old saying “misery likes company” right!?

I doesn’t always work out for me either and more than once have/had to do something about it. I'm not sure if bitching and whining is going to do much good.

 

Also, there are several Canadian Operators working abroad. Especially mediums on US fire contracts. There are plenty of operators in the US, but simple "best value" gets the work. as everywhere else “Money talks”

 

Outlook.

A few years back, hardly any utility operator had full time work for all his employees during the winter months, and it didn’t matter what country. Companies were cautious and didn’t hire until they had contracts lined up and that was usually not until March/April. This year is no different.

Many companies especially exploration (on a worldwide basis) are holding back, for now! Many contracts are still in debate not even out for bid yet, but I’m fairly optimistic there will a fair amount of last minute contracts. Times are tough right now, or is it that we might got spoiled over the last few years? Myself I haven’t turned a blade in four months, but I’m optimistic and look forward for this upcoming season and try to make the best out of it. (there is more than one way to skin a cat, right)

 

One more thing, I would really encourage every operator before hiring somebody, citizen or not, to do a thorough background check. It appears that operators have been negligent on that part.

 

Now go ahead and shoot at me. I am just thinking out loud how I perceive the situation.

Regards,

 

 

 

 

[borntofly]

You are the epitome of the french dilema...in English...ARROGANT

 

I have over 15K hours working all over the world in cultures diverse and colourful and NEVER have I felt so alienated or threatened as I did one summer when I took a contract with Tran-Quebec to fly in James Bay,

 

IN MY OWN COUNTRY !!!!!!

 

....but then I'm sure you don't see it that way.........It's Quebec......and that's not Canada.

 

And then, to add insult to injury I discover they are importing pilots from France to fly there because none of the Canadian boys ( or so they said) could communicate with the SEBJ foreman in French or because they can't (won't) speak English.

 

Yeah, that was an experience that has left me with an impression of Quebec that is best left unsaid.

 

 

 

ok ok ok...i see now....there is a cure for that kind of illness....they call it S E X....so find a hooker somewhere in your area....i suggest you a chinesse one...they are used to deal with small c0ck like you and you will se a big difference in your attitude when you woke up the next morning....you will be happy and you will enjoy life again!! dont forget viagra!!!

 

BTW...if you dont speak english....do you think you can go for work for ASRD?

I dont think...

So i guess this is the same thing here in quebec, with the difference that we can speak french and english so we can go work all arround our wonderfull contry CANADA!!

take french lesson and they will welcome you in James Bay!!

[transquebecniece]

This is akin to watching :jerry:

 

I do understand some of the sentiments being expressed, though not all. Work-permit freezes may briefly help the outrageous unemployment rate on both sides of the border, regardless of industry, but it would be a temporary fix...a tiny li'l non-permanent bandage, IMHO. Someone said earlier, "it's the entire process that is faulted." Couldn't agree more.

 

More popcorn, please.